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Disclaimer: Do not approach CMWinter, Do not Attack, the purpose of this video is for entertainment and a satirical view or review on the opinions of the game and content creator.
CMWinter – ManFaceJay met him in our early days of Streaming and Killer games, he was very negative when we went through to his Stream etc and hasn’t really ever had any positive outlook towards his games. I wanted to create this review / overview of this guy and talk about the Toxic side of Killer Streamers, as we focus so much on Survivors. I don’t get the opertunity to see Killers, as we rarely play them on Stream.
This guy is the definition of bad Killer outlook and influences a really Toxic behaviour, ManFaceJays aim is to drive everyone away from this mindset and remember its a game that we are all passionate about and we need to be respecting all kinds of mechanics within this game. CMWinter just seems to want to take everything so personal and approach his chases / Survivor gameplay with hatred all the way through.
If you play like this, don’t, its only going to stress you out and turn this game into an exhausting mess! Learn to respect the skills on both sides of the game and when plays are made, just appreciate your mistakes etc.
0:00 – Introduction
1:47 – Match Starts
3:33 – First Hook
5:24 – Shack Time
9:14 – Nea Escapes
12:48 – Post Game
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More about Dead By Daylight:
A group of up to four survivors must elude one killer. The survivors’ perspectives are third-person, while the killer’s perspective is first-person. The survivors cannot fight against the killer and can only survive by running away and evading them. They must use obstacles in the form of wooden pallets, windows, and items that they either find inside chests or bring before the match starts to run from the killer for as long as they can. In order to escape, survivors must repair 5 generators scattered across the entire map to power the exit gates, then they must open the exit gates and leave the area themselves or find a hatch to jump into.
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I know its 2020 content, but its still how they are, he just deletes VODS now days. Remember, respect the content, don't go in there and be dicks <3
Oh yeah Cmwinter one of my Favorite YouTubers.
I don't mind people clicking but if you constantly click at a killer who is trying to give other survivers a chance to then you can expect a camp that's normal and "facecamping" is just a style so let that CM do what he wants,you cannot say clicking isn't toxic cause it's and that's facts
Oh no. I gifted CMWinter a sub to you yesterday, unaware of your history. You made a comment on it, saying you don't think he's gonna visit the stream, because of a run-in you had with him. That gave you the idea for this vid, didn't it? This was interesting to see, as someone who follows both of you. You have a few things in common, as UK killer players that grew explosively recently. ANYWAYS,
I will give CM credit on that he has integrity when it comes to respecting requests people pay him to do, in fact it's that level of honesty and his aversion to lewdness that makes me disbelieve the allegations made against him. I think he has very strong boundaries, hence he's highly reactive if someone crosses them by starting shit in his chat or by doing what's perceived as disrespect in the game.
That said, I do agree with you, and share your entire outlook on video games, so I can agree that his mindset is unhealthy for him, as he's allowing people to rile him up and have control over his emotions. The way he lets really small things offend him almost leads me to believe he's narcissistic, though that can easily be mistaken for being very proud. It's not a stretch to say he's like a killer-version of ANGRYPUG, in that a lot of people watch him for the drama and shittalk that happens 9/10 matches. Heck, I'll admit I find it entertaining. I think it's worth noting that while he does make it personal with some players, a lot of the time it's just shit-talky videogame banter.
I even joked to him that-
Survivor: breathes
CMWinter: "You're getting face camped."
He acknowledged that's accurate, so he's self aware at least. Though I do feel bad for people that he misunderstands. It happens a lot, and he'll ban the person after dumping a shit of insults on them, then will be too stubborn to give them another chance even though other viewers or mods tell him he misunderstood it.
My conclusion is, you are right about a lot of this, in fact I'm surprised more people haven't made videos like this on CM with "toxic police" being the trend on DbD YouTube lately, but that said, I think he's decent human being with strong moral values that gets a lot of shit for being blunt and stubborn.
I have faced CMWinter only once and it was a while back which was an honor and I got stomped by him when I was new to pc and DbD at the time, after that I was inspired by his good pig gameplay but as I gained experience with the game and got used to everything. I have recently came back to his videos and noticed lately most of it is just him complaining, and in his second most recent video when winter was just finished ranting he read the message blaming blaming blaming from one of his viewers and he said mods ban that person. Which showed to me that he truly doesn’t care. Great job bringing awareness to this Jay! Keep up the great work!
Maybe its just me but I dont think he did anything wrong. His choice of words were wrong but you even say that the survivor was playing a certain way to irritate the killer (which seems okay) but him tunneling and camping is wrong? At the end of the day, this is a video game that should not be taken seriously but it seems like yall are all hating on this guy because of his play style. Have none of you ever tunneled or camped a.survivor because of how they played? Because they were annoying. Why is it okay for survivors to tbag, flashlight click and all that other fun stuff but not okay for a killer to tunnel and camp… thats entitlement. BTW, love your content.
I've went against him twice and both the games were just so agonizingly bad and unfun, I jumped in his stream after realising it was him after being camped and tunnelled at 4 gens after playing normally without trying to upset the killer while he was spirit on midwich and he just kept going on about how he won't change and all he'll do is camp and tunnel after literally decimating me and my teammates via scummy tactics for no real reason on a killer which takes probably the least amount of brain power to do good with pre nerf on a killer sided map which is fine but bragging about it right after after someone in chat called him out on it is just a bit sad which i think they may have banned that person I'm not sure. And the 2nd game on lerys while he was pig was the most drawn out and boring game ever, literally got my friend trapped in a corner crouching so the timer continued on their trap while they were doing a box so that their head would pop on 1 hook not long into the game and i didn't even bother to check his stream because i knew for a fact he would probably be bragging or talking about how the games survivor sided and my friend who was basically brand new deserved what they got because that's all he does, and then the rest of the match was him just protecting gens with his life, I don't even think we got past 3 gens, he would literally drop chases to patrol gens with barely any progress, man just plays toxic, acts toxic, got paedophile allegations, and somehow has a lot of subs it really baffles me
Oh I know this guy, he tunnelled me for having the pride charm on my male character! Tried to say it was because of a key but he knew I dropped the key as he saw someone else with it. Still tried to get rid of the key.
well said. i am constantly told that i am "toxic" for teabagging, when the truth is that I mean no bm by it, I just want them to chase me, and it works.
I respect your opinion and i have been watching your vids for a while but this video is something I can not agree with. First of all let him play how he wants if he wants to camp tunnel one person that is on him but also I don't agree that tbagging and flashlight clicking isn't toxic to me it is they are trying to get you to react a certain way so that you fumble that is toxic in my opinion. I do not think he comes off as angry maybe a little sarcastic but to say all his viewership is to watch him get angry that is not a good thing to say especially when it is not true sure probably some of them do but i watch him because to me its fun and when someone purposely wants the attention of the killer its not bad for the killer to give all the attention if they want. You can't expect it to be okay for the survivor to be doing all that stuff and for the killer not to do what he wants its a two way thing. I hope this comes off as okay because I like your content but I just do not agree with this one bit but I hope you continue doing great and of course I will be here to watch this is just my opinion and if you do not agree with it that is fine it is not a big deal. I understand your side and his side but I just don't agree with you on this one but cheers and keep up the great work <3
He’s EU and people from the USA literally switch servers just to play against him and to give him a hard time. Survivors are assholes, and i see nothing wrong with returning the same energy.
Just because you have calm mindset doesn’t mean everyone should have it. He’s a human being with emotions and if he deems clicking and teabagging as something to get mad about then that’s on him. Way to patronize.
Clout chasing video. Literally nothing wrong with the killer gameplay or the way he behaved. I guess his current viewership is the only "frustration mechanic" that is working on you.
In his defense ( one and only defense ) he is a extremely good pig player when he isn't acting like that. Other than that he is quite boring to watch. Reminds me of the streamers spooknjukes highlights, the negativity is not fun to watch. Great video as always man.
Tbh ive always been iffy on CMWinter. Ill probably still occasionally watch his content, and i understand that its annoying with the clicking and teabagging. When it happens to me i just hook them and move on and forget about it but i do agree the trash talking is strange. And i have noticed him doing that to survivors who i believe arent being toxic either. Though i still find some of his content pretty interesting.
Side note i think the reason some people take the game so seriously(mainly content creators) its because thats how they make a living. Its quite normal for competitive players to take the game so seriously. Not condoning his trash talking but unfortunately as long as theres online gaming it'll be a thing
You have earned my sub, and respect.. never heard about you but this has bring awareness and opened my mind a bit. As I try to stay calm during games and try for it to not stress me out. But it gets the best of you sometimes.. that's the times that I take a break from the game. Thank you for the video.
CMWinter isn’t a toxic killer. He plays accordingly to the opposition. The survivors want to play with strats to frustrate the killer, so he tunnels and camps in response to it. That’s not being toxic, it’s absolutely justified. What’s the problem here? Hm?
Didnt expect much else from someone who grooms teenagers…..
For me it's the macro that annoys me as you can't naturally click that fast so you use third party software in order to do it. Like clicking the flashlight is what it is but when they use a macro it it sounds like an attack helicopter.
I always think I find good fun wholesome dbd streamers that are cool, and then I see a video of yours exposing them, if I ever see you call out spooknjukes I might just lose faith in dbd
Interesting how u did decide to review a game from 2 years ago or however long ago and not more recently, in fairness you're not wrong about the fact that it is just a game and survivors do this stuff to solely annoy the killer or get their attention but then again if I was to play devil's advocate I'm sure there is a few valid reasons is to why he gets frustrated and insults the survivors annoying him like the fact he does viewer build requests that can hinder him a lot whilst having to play against ppl using meta perks or how he only plays killer on stream for a good 4 or 5 hrs because I'm pretty sure that's what ppl watch him for. Again when he does say some outlandish shit like "This guy is so cancer" obviously it's fucked up but I highly doubt he truly means any of the vile things he does say to the ppl annoying him at the end of the day
faced him in solo queue, got his ass handed to him after camping and tunneling. he was being an asshole in his live too and complaining all the time.
it's not even him, it's the people who watch him. you have endless amounts of quality stuff to watch and you spend hours watching a guy complain while he camps
I keep seeing memes of him on YouTube shorts. Great video and explains why I keep seeing him.
well, my eyes are pretty sensetive sometimes, and the clicking can be pretty annoying with the light that keeps flashing.
I truly never understood why people used cancer as an insult tbh, but to use it to describe a game is even worse. It's as if people don't know what they are spouting out of their mouth's. And this is legit over a game. Just a shame people behave like this, love your content Jay. Keep it up in glad I found your channel <3
Bro this view count in 1 day is insane congrats my dude. Well deserved 🙂
Alright, CMWinter is not someone I follow. I watched some of his videos and that's all however, If I was in this situation where survivors would try to annoy me tbagging, clicking etc. I would do the exact same thing.
Remember, if these are tactics exist to make the killer frustrated and cause them to make mistakes, then what he does is the exact same thing. Survivors are way more toxic in this game ( yes, I consider teabagging and clicking toxic, you may not agree with me but this is what I think.) so giving them the same treatment is just fair. Yes, I agree its just a game and these are the legits things that are in the game but everyone has their own rules. So judging them for their rules is nonsense. I didn't watch the whole video because I don't really enjoy watching dbd anymore but just wanted to say this regardless.
If he insulted them, then you can say he is toxic. But giving someone their own medicine is not toxic, though teabagging and clicking means (in my book) they want attention because they watch toxic survivor main streamers who constantly bully newbie killers and make contents out of them. You can't judge someone playing toxic if they are facing a bully squad.
If the rest of the video of him insulting and swearing at this people for no reason then forget what I said, if not, then no. He is not toxic because he is using a legit tactic to create frustration on the opponent.
So it's a tactic when Survivors do stuff, but it isn't a tactic when he does stuff in response to it?
"Tactics" that are literally intended to anger the person who can force you out of the game carry risks. That particular Survivor can take comfort that while he's being facecamped his team is free to work on gens!
What a hero! All it took was a macro, and a willingness to play in a way intended to upset somebody.
I went against him the other day, Thank you for doing this video. I was about to send my gameplay and thoughs over to you ManFaceJay
Faced CMWinter a few times, never once had a good reaction from him(win or lose). He gets personal for absolutely no reason and gets backs up by his delusional chat 😂
I was expecting more examples…
I'm not really a cm fan or anything but I ran into him playing pig once and we were a 4man swf. He killed 3 of us and I was opening an exit gate, I would've got it open and escaped but he came towards me so i ran over to boop the snoot cuz it's just a game why not have a bit of fun? He let me go, and I was his last stack of BBQ. I went into his chat after and said GG n stuff and he was nice and friendly. I know that's only one game, but people here seem to be shitting on him quite hard.