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In this video I play Nurse and Blight without any perks or addons to see if they are too strong. The gap between those 2 and the rest of the killers is fairly big in my opinion. What are your thoughts?
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I think the biggest issue with them comes from the fact that the arms race of killer vs survivor perks means if you want to do anything off meta theres a chance you just get completely owned. if in DotA 2 you see someone immediately first pick the most meta stuff you can make appropriate countermeasures, where you get none of that info in dbd at a time where you can make any adjustments. if someone just played 4 compound 33 blights in the past day i dont think its unreasonable to equip a ranger medkit and the full meta loadout with a 4 man swf on coms, but my Onryo is about to get destroyed.
I welcome anyone to argue with me on this: nurse is extremely unfair and should be severely nerfed or removed from the game. You cannot loop her at all and your only chance to live is purely if the nurse is terrible.
In my opinion, the current state of blight is kinda like how billy used to be. With his base kit being strong but with counter play existing. And then once you throw his add-ons into the mix he can become extremely busted. They definitely shouldn't butcher him like they did Billy but his add-ons definitely need to be toned down.
The solution is not to nerf Blight or Nurse. The solution is to buff the other killers.
Yeah ofc their strong but they take skill. how often do you even go against these killers let alone a good one.Yes their addons are strong like alchemist ring but it only rewards you if you get the hit and it’s kinda easy to outplay a hug tech if you know what your doing nurses though fuck then
First they should fix hug tech bug and then nerf addons on blight.
Only to their addons. Their basekit is mostly fine imo. The problem is the fsct that on top of being the strongest killers in the Game the have the most boosted addons in the game. Bhvr cant do anything right.
Nurse either needs a rework or another nerf because a good nurse can shut anyone down in seconds. Dead hard will only buy a few seconds. Blight’s add ons need to be look at as well.
If they are going to nerf DH, they need to look at these 2 killers too or they will be dominating every game (more than they already are).
Dude you were basically at 1 gen with 3 hooks the blight match. You were lucky the yui ran to the gen and they didnt split up the rest of the match. Otherwise this would have been over with max 6 hooks. Perks wouldnt have helped you till that point. Thats broken.
Whenever I go up against a nurse, it’s certain that they’ll get a 4K every time.
Yes.
Remove nurse and maybe slightly nerf blight
Well I'd say that Blight is the most well rounded, a strenght that doesn't break the game (outside of using the same old meta but that is more of a problem with the game itself). The nurse on the other hand is complicated. She has the perfect risk/reward but the simplicity of the concept of the blink breaks the game. Nerfing her has to mantain the aspect of the risk/reward. Cutting her power should make her more accessible, but the real problem is finding a solution that does this. Maybe the problem is once again at the core of the game but I'm not an expert game designer, so I cannot tell for sure. The other killers cannot keep up and the gap in power is so big that they end up being on another level, because they don't have to play the normal DbD and can fight all the problems that the core game has much better than the rest of the roster. The nurse was also born for a game that was hide and seek, when being found by the killer meant that you WERE going down, and the nurse emobides that. Other than mindgames, the real counter to nurse is to not be found in the first place, to outstealth her between the fatigue stages, that's why she looks downward during those, to give surviviors the opportunity to run away from her LoS.
TL; DR I don't think that the problem is with those killer specifically, it's that the devs think DbD is still that 2016 hide and seek game. The community plays by chases and they should adjust the core game mechanics to fit the chases, and they need to take a look at how monotonous survivior's gamplay is. It's so barebone: totem, gens or chases. Nothing else to do, playing as a team is very simple and very powerful. Blight and nurse simply can keep up with a good team, the other killers cannot. They can down fast, travel fast and disrupt fast. Every other killer specializes in one thing only.
They ruined the game
oh god why is everyone talking about nerfing Killers right now… how about we nerf all the Broken Sh*t on Survivors first so the Game is Balanced again and Remove SBMM before Talking Nerf Killers… Survivors win almost every Game and this disencourages Killer Mains to Play… leading to the BullSh*`t excuse BHVR makes with "Hey is Survivor que is too long, play Killer for a tiny handfull of BP extra"… then they play Killer and get grinded into the Mud by Meta Sweats and return to playing Survivor… GG EZ didn't solve the issue DBD has…. so please Stop talking about nerfing Killers when only the Strongest and Most oppressive Killers are the only way to Counter Circle of Jerking Boons and all the other annoying Ez 1000 Second chances Perks.
Personally I feel if they nerfed blight and nurse to like 20% of how good they currently are and then maybe added an extra 10 or 20 seconds longer to gen repairs, I feel the game would be a a pretty good spot
They are most definitely way to op, but i also think alot of meta survivor perks need a slight nerf etc but imo i just wished they balanced this game for the very best players, i think that would lead to a better playing experience for everyone but hey i looped the killer for 4 gens then got basement camped first hook so I guess the lead game designer is right and I should lose MMR for that 😂 because it wasn't skill because i died
I feel like the problem with nerfing either character is that both are very hard to master I have maybe a couple hundred hours on nurse and still have trouble, if a killer has a high skill ceiling and no reward for mastering them there’s no real reason to play them at all plus on console you’d probably do well more consistently with most other killers even once you master them which really wouldn’t be a problem if BHVR just let console players use keyboards but their determined to squeeze every last dollar out of players by making them buy two copies of the game just so they can use keyboards against cross players and play the game the way it was obviously intended to be played
Their addons are unfair , nurse's rework has made her way too strong – her bugs are what made her balanced (disregarding the blink bug because that should have been fixed)
Blight is a killer that should not be 115 , a power as strong as blight's belongs on a 110 killer
I think you can fix both with longer cooldowns on their abilities. Nurse can travel across maps in seconds ignoring any obstacles but when she gets there she can immediately start blinking in chase. When she misses with a 2 blink combo the penalty is a brief stun effect that does not give the survivor time to run or hide before the next blink. Missing in chase with 2 blinks should come with penalties because it’s not that hard to hit, especially on maps that don’t have easy options to break line of sight. Blight can also cross the map with ease but once he finds someone his ability to chase is refreshed super quickly. There’s no trade offs. You just get to be anywhere any time and still be oppressive in chase instantly. There needs to be more of a trade off for using powers as traversal and the penalty for missing in chase needs to be more severe and give the survivor options to reposition.
to op. please nerf!
is what i see every killer rework. nurse was already strong from the beginning. all this did was make it slightly worse for people😂🤣
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Issue with blight from my pov is back when he was released he had less exploits but much stronger like z flicks iirc, now because they kept changing his collision he has more of them, and some of his addons alchemist ring for example
yeah I think both blight and nurse need I little rethink of their power, although I dont mind blights that much nurses are a menace
No killer is too strong. Your teammates are too weak.
Nurse is mostly too strong, the way Nurse works is basically legal cheating. Most people aren't that good Nurse, well most people aren't good at DbD in general, so it normally isn't a problem that Nurse is technically broken.
If you give 80% of dbd players the keys to success they'll screw it up then complain saying they played perfectly.
In a more balanced version of DbD I'd completely agree that they're too strong, but DbD is not balanced at all, survivors absolutely dominate after reaching high MMR and Nurse or Blight sometimes genuinely feel like the only killers capable to compete with their efficiency. Nurse and Blight are the necessary evils until this game gets more balanced so other killers can compete as well
Nurse ok she strong but play blight on console, he is not strong at all
The frame at 6:56 is perfect
Every killer should be as strong as nurse and blight. Once that's accomplished, you can start buffing survivor perks to levels similar to circle of healing on release
The main problem with this argument is that these 2 killers are the hardest to play and master so I feel the killers in a sense are more rewarding than broken
I still think it’s funny that we have a killer like Nurse who denies pretty much all of the gameplay aspects of DbD, but then someone like Wraith gets nerfed.
Remove the bs survivor has then it'll be fair to nerf the 2 most strongest killers (strongest for a reason because every other killer sucks or pales in comparison to what nurse and blight can do)
I think blight and nurse are truly the only killers that can when the killer is good enough that can win almost any games