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Ever since Myer’s rework in the most recent patch, The Evil Incarnate achievement has went from difficult, to near impossible. The changes to the tombstone addons make it take much longer to build up, and stalking close range is worse now as well. Meaning it’s harder to cheese with PWYF
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I think the Ebony Mori offering would help.
Im so glad i did this achievement 7 years ago before they nerfed bloodlust speeds, and before mmr and before you saw every myers running this lol
@OhTofu… I love you bro… but double IRI is most definitely NOT dead and is still the best way to get the achievement. I have A LOT of hours into playing Myers…. you're just using the wrong build and you're not playing aggressive enough. I use Monitor and Abuse, Ruin, Surveillance and PWYF. That's my build for Double IRI Myers and has been for the last 5 years… lol. Couldn't wait to try it after the patch and I too landed on Lery's of all places and immediately said FML…. but I stuck to my game and got the 4 mori's with 2 gens left… Yes, on Lery's!!!! Figured since it went so well, I'd give it another go and landed on Ironworks… and got another 4 mori's. And those were just my first two attempts. I've gotten the 4 Mori's with double IRI's more than a half dozen times since the patch. My humble advice… don't worry so much about PWYF stacks until you're ready to start killing…. DON"T kill your obsession first!!! Save them for later Mistakes happen and PWYF doesn't generate stacks if your Obsession is dead. No need to kill off one of your Perks. Use Ruin/Surv/MnA to get easy hits and keep them off gens and let Ruin work…. Be aggressive… you HAVE TO chew away at all those pallets BEFORE you pop Tier 3. DO NOT sacrifice downing and hooking for stalk… must keep pressure up and not give away the Tombstone just yet. Use those stacks and small Terror Radius to get free hits and downs. It's very much OK to hook people when trying to get the achievement…. and somewhat necessary. Ruin/Surv tells you where to go. Go to yellow gen.. hit survivor/get pallet…. gen regresses… go to next yellow gen. lol. Obviously want to defend Ruin as much as possible…. but once you're close to Tier 3… it won't matter anymore. Pallets will be gone, they won't have enough gen progress once you pop and start killing. It really is that easy my friend. You're build is doing you a disservice. Ruin is absolutely slept on these days and does an insane amount of work when trying to get the 4 Mori's. But really it's the synergy between Ruin/Surv/MnA for the early game. Then MnA/PWYF is what gets you the kills once you hit T3. You're too fast and your TR is too small for them to react and get to a locker or anywhere safe. Try it!!!!! Edit note: Survivors are far less likely to cheese you from the achievement when they see you've been playing somewhat normally by downing and hooking. Which is why I said it is somewhat necessary to down and hook survivors.
People are dumb for not letting people get this achievement, but at the same time Bhvr allows that to happen, so idk even know who to blame.
I was lucky enough to be able to get it in 2021 when people would just DC before you mori them which causes you not to get it, but I agree it is definitely not easier.
To get the achievement I ran Trial of Torment. Surprising people was the cleanest way to get the mori
You should be able to kill out of a locker
I mean you most of you say it’s hard and survivors are petty, but you also aren’t playing the game normally as killer.
You running around stalking the whole game, not really doing anything until you have an infinite insta-kill mode. Not very fun for a survivor to make one mistake and game over.
It’s just a poorly designed achievement, just like killer adepts.
I do think corrupt might backfire a bit for this, since it encourages survivors to displace from their spawn and make it more likely to see you. With the increase stalk speed from distance it might be better without
you need to put pressure on the survivors, you can't just spend the whole game stalking them and letting them get stuff for free, watch mains like stalki boi, they injure survivors even of they aim to get the 4k tombstone because that forces the survivors out of the objectives, remember that the survivors win by doing gens, if you're not doing anything to stop them from doing so you are just losing the game for yourself
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I got this Achievement back in August on my first attempt. I got lucky and after closing hatch and seeing the last survivor at the gate, they let me have it because at that point I won and they didn't feel like being spiteful. Definitely a poorly design achievement, it should be reworked to be like Vecna's Rightful Owner achievement imo or just a "Kill X Survivors with Tier 3 Evil Within." I have the achievement already so I don't care if they rework it to be easier, it doesn't bother me what it is changed too.
This is definitely the hardest achievement in the game because even with perfect game knowledge there are too many factors beyond your control to get it, and it can be intentionally denied by the other side (and it doesn't even need to be everyone on that side). In fact, only the 4 mori achievement and Vecna's Rightful Owner are the only ones you can even argue could also be intentionally denied as all other achievements you can get through normal game play without the other side having an option to intentionally deny it.
And Rightful Owner requires all 4 survivors to ignore Treasure chests completely and it isn't as clear when someone is going to the 4 mori achievement (and there are ways to get that achievement even if the survivors are trying to deny it.)
Run unlimited tier 3 and the new uber strong hex build with devour, undying, thrill of the hunt and the dracula perk that blocks totems. You get more time to stalk them, hooks still add to the same benefit as the stacks will grow with everyone being scared it's tombstone and they jump lockers and you can just ignore tombstone and grab a good other addon to actually improve your stalk.
I was still afraid of Tombstone Myers this patch.
No more.
I can get the locker thing on a first hook. I can get it if doing so nets your team some extra time. But the fact people do this when it's "I'll die either way" is just being a dick
If you are the type of survivor to sit in the locker while you are the last and the hatch has been shut, waiting for the end game timer to run out, JUST to deny the achievement, then im sorry to say, you are one of the biggest PoS there is. Period.
I aint saying peeps should hand it to myers, but theres playing the game, and then theres knowing youve lost and deciding to be petty.
Even after all these years the devs still have no idea about their own game. They either nerf perks / add ons into oblivion or make them OP
Survivors are petty to these addons because the add-ons unbelievably broken
I JUST got it, took about 4 games. Definitely want to hone one survivor first, then continue on and on with it until you get all 4. Used myers memorial and tombstone piece, the perks were PWYF, Ruin, Corrupt, and discordance.
Good luck man you got this!
1000% if I'm on survivor side and one of my teammates denies an achievement myers like that I'm calling them out as pathetic bitches who don't get any.
I feel bad for the people trying to get all the trophies now cause back it was difficult but now it's a struggle.
Interesting question, especially with the new thrill changes. What about running infinite tier 3 myers with stalk speed with "thrill of the hunt", "devour" "undying" and "deadlock?" Play normal by hooking etc and stalking from afar and kill by late midgame with devour once you're in infinite tier 3?
Prime example why I quit play dbd after 2000 hours….
There's an easy fix to the locker problem with tombstone, They could just make it so if you grab someone out of locker while in tier 3 with tombstone you just Mori them
So glad I lucked into getting this one years ago.
I'm one of the survivors that's a homie and will let a Myers get the achievement. Granted I won't give it for free but I'm usually solo, and my teammates…
You could've have used nemesis (the perk not the killer.)
Im gonna cherish every video before you vanish into the night again for 3 months
Wish Michael got a fear mechanic similar to dredge
It's always been kind of important on Double Iri to not completely neglect getting downs in the earlygame for slowdown, but now I think it might be absolutely required. It's just so slow to do anything, you need the survivors to have things to do other than gens and avoiding Stalk, especially since long-range stalking is much easier to avoid if they're aware of your position. Honestly these changes don't feel that good to me, idk. Granted I've never been
toogood at longer-range stalking.I've said it 5 million times before and I'll say it 20 million times again, BHVR sucks at designing archives and achievements like 90% of the time.
Isn't the end game Mori counts with the achievement? Couldn't you Mori the Meg like that and get the achievement?
Can t you use a mori?
Remember me and get the obsession first might help a bit
they doubled how much juice survivors have, but also doubled how much juice it takes to tier up with double iri, making it where it's practically double the stalk time *minimum*, with line of sight breakers causing stalking to be far less effective over all.
I knew that the amount of stalk it takes to go from 2-3 on double iri had been nerfed. I had no idea it was literally "The entire match is over by the time you're done" slow. That seems downright unplayable, never mind the achievement.
Also: keep in mind that since getting grabbed is better than getting insta-mori'd, going into a locker against a Tombstone Myers is still the tactically sensible play- survivors do that because it's the best defense at that point- they don't just do that to spite your achievement.
what if you try to hook someone and camp far away to stalk?
Glad I got this achievement a few months ago, it’s even easier when you are at rock bottom MMR because survivors just stand there wondering what is happening to their friend until it happens to them next. I got it in one attempt after farming like 10 of each item required haha
Making a couple of changes that feel fair both for Myers and survivors would be pretty easy:
1 – Achievement requirement changed to kill 4 survivors in general, instead of 1 game
2 – Finisher mori/mori offering kills should count for the achievement too
3 – Judith's Tombstone no longer has a movement speed penalty, and now allows you to kill both standing and downed survivors. However, you can only kill survivors who are on their death hook
4 – Tombstone Piece removed
Well we know that Meglegs is a scumbag survivor. Then they only say ggs at the end like they didn’t just BM like crazy
Should have slugged third girl, tombstoned the fourth and come back to finisher mori the slug. Actually, you probably could have pulled the locker and finisherd right there.
>hardest achievement
you are clickbaiting or insane
So glad I already had this achievement before this change. Would hate to do this now
i'm trying to get it at the moment and im on my 23. try
Sure it sucks that this was nerfed for people who wanted to get the achievement, but playing recently I realized that literally every single Myers game I got into was a go next. My friends and I said "oh it's a Myers", we run and do gens for ab it, he picks someone up and executes them, and we all just give up immediately and go get in a locker. It just totally ruins the game when you realize what's going on.
I got it first try. I’m in low mmr for killer tho so I don’t think it’s cause I was good or anything lol
I struggle to get it because I’ve done the achievement 4 times and Steam never counted it once so I gave up