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Since the VHS closed beta dropped a few days ago, there’s been constant chatter around the DBD community that DBD is actually scared of VHS… Is this true? Let’s talk about it.
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Also, did you get into the VHS closed beta? If so, how are you feeling about it so far?
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You know, seeing how much DBD gets compared to VHS…
Wouldn't it be interesting to see a VHS chapter in DBD?
Yes but its because it was black friday ik it was the same day of the vhs release but still it was black friday
With any luck the people who've played this game for thousands upon thousands of hours will find a new game to really enjoy in VHS and can come back to Dead by Daylight with a fresh face later, while DBD will be better after losing so many worn down players and we see a sizable amount of players come in who aren't already expecting toxicity/prepared to be toxic in return.
Might be healthy for everyone involved to have a break.
VHS will suffer from what I’ve coined the “fall guys paradox” VHS will be popular for a week-month then completely plummet
To only reason why I believe they're scared of them is because they got defensive when other asymmetric type games were releasing That's the only reason
Na I don't think DBD has anything to be scared of or worried about, look at Predator:Hunting Grounds&Aliens:Fireteam Elite people don't even play those games, they play DBD and as long as they keep adding content in the game it'll stay alive
Tbh i would of never heard of vhs if it wasnt for dbd creators. i can say that vhs would probably be irrelevant if dbd didnt exist
Lots of killers are upset with dbd and if dbd loses too many killers its going to cause queue time issues. You talk about how many perks there are but I see like the same 8 perks over and over.
Most likely with every asymmetrical game it could end up flopping harder than when I used heelys but if it does end up being successful unlike last year the nightmare for example it could give dead by daylight a rival game which could increase how much the dbd devs do
No matter how good the game play is… No matter how popular it gets, VHS doesn't have "realistic" graphics that help make the game feel emersive and doesn't have licensed killers. THAT'S why I stated playing DBD. That won't change, it's a shitty game sometimes but it hits just right. Hits the horror feeling just too perfectly and VHS feels like "babies first horror game"
I dunno, VHS feels weirdly "clunky" if that makes sense? (Not saying DBD wasn't clunky early on but still). But either way I'm happy to see the floodgates open for more asymmetrical horror games, DBD could use the competition.
Part of VHS that bugs me, so far at least, is the lore. Like I'll be completely honest Huntress is the one thing that anchors me to DBD and part of that is because I really like her story and how human it is in a sad, twisted way. The monsters in VHS seem to be just that, random monsters from video tapes. I find it a lot harder to be invested when there doesn't seem to be really much to get invested in?
That being said if someone can find a way to capture the same energy I love so much about Huntress (in regards to gameplay, aesthetics, and story) and make an entire game with that energy, I'd be there in a heartbeat.
Idk why you talk like dbd is not dead dude lobby is took to long as survives to play even when there double bloodpoint still way to much time to play 1 match to many survivers but low killers what that and yeah vhs is new lets wait and see
VHS has a chance if they use old B horror movie villains. Like Killer Klowns from Outerspace, Junior, Toxic Avenger,ect…
They ain't going to lose a entire player base to VHS, but they might lose some and when you lose some players you lose some money. Any competition is good even if it's just a little, maybe Behavior might pick up the slack a little.
Next year i wont a thankskilling chapter
Considering how bad the game feels when you are down to two survivors with more than one gen up (survivor side) or when you are down to one gen with all four survivors up (killer side) I think VHS has a chance. I have only been playing DBD a couple hundred hours and I already see the massive game design flaws it has that are not present in VHS. Two survivors cannot turn the game around on a killer. One killer cannot keep four remotely competent survivors from finishing the last gen.
Also, what is that variety of perks really worth when only a few of them are actually options for effective play? Not to mention how completely unbalanced the killer powers are. VHS has only three killers, and DBD effectively has three killers at high MMR… maybe you occasionally see a small handful of the others but to ever regularly engage with them you have to throw matches to tank your MMR… which shows how useless MMR is.
Nah, it may not be VHS, but as soon as a game comes along that addresses the issues DBD ignores (like hacking), DBD will be in trouble.
Will there be free online servers when dead by daylight comes to epic games?
I think some competition would be great and give players more variety.
Jesus, no they're not "scared". I like your work Tooten, but FFS don't encourage people with this sillyassed "afraid of VHS" nonsense.
DBD survive Friday the 13th and now DBD will survive VHS. In the good old days everyone says that friday the 13th kick dbd from the throne and nothing happend.
Reminds me when ppl relied on temtems to dominate and replace Pokémon. It failed of course. It’s honestly a curse
I still have doubts about VHS lasting that long, but fingers crossed it's good enough to make the devs give a shit.
of course they are and they should be, thats why you listen to your playerbase and not only one side
When it comes to competition IMO no their not
I think it's definitely a paradigm shift now that dbd actually has a competent competitor. I think they're a bit paranoid that maybe eventually they could be surpassed, as VHS is awesome and brand new and dbd is well beyond the average life cycle of a games as a service.
Depending on how the next few months go I think we could feel some sort of impact.
However, dbd's monopoly is so massive that they don't really have anything to fear for a while.
Best case scenario, it doesn't kill dbd, the devs feel pressured enough to take time and effort to improve the game according to those who know it well, and also VHS is the next best thing in the genre.
Either way, however, as things go, new things that improve and push the genre further will often bury existing things that refuse to adapt and evolve. So, if behaviour still refuse to listen to their playerbase and make bizarre decisions, AND VHS comes along and everyone can't stop playing, dbd will naturally die, as all things that fail to evolve do.
I think it comes down to a question "do you trust the devs of dbd enough to put in enough effort to keep their game alive?" For me that question is no.
I like how he says over 80 perks in both sides and yet you see the exact same 4 survivor perks almost every game, DS, unbreakable, dead hard and BT
i said this in your live chat, but again, i think the only way for DBD to be surpassed by VHS is for the game to have been out for a few years with just as much if not more content being added as DBD AND for them to add licensed characters for the game, without them doing just 1 of those things, they will never surpass DBD
The only way vhs could cause an impact on dbd badly is licenses but I don’t see that happening in a 80’s cartoon game the way dbd has them
I thinking bloodhunt is just because black friday
We're you aware there's going to be a dragon ball Asymmetrical game coming featuring cell as the killer (at least thus far gor the killer, rumors have it there will be more)
The main problem and you even support this in the video is DBD has ears over VHS with content but we can all agree the balance is a big problem and if VHS gets the support it needs and some time that it needs it could be a big problem for dbd
you are comparing an exited game for years to a brand new one and players are already saying that its alot more balanced than dbd could ever be and after some time when the VHS devs give more conent to the game itself Behavior will need to step up its game to keep players interested with killers being to weak gens going to fasts the constant hate of survivor vs killer and not just a player of the game the major problem is killers are balanced for solo players and its fun untill you get a swf to come along and ruin your fun thats when slugging camping ect comes in the dbd devs have alot to fix and having so much content in the game could hurt that because they want to balance for the casual player and not competitive it is hurting there game a fresh start like VHS could do very well epically if they come out right now while dbd is in kinda of a really bad state
We need them to have competition and to be “scared”, so then they actually start listening to their community more. SBMM has ruined dbd for me, i cant play casually anymore and have lost online friends because of how over reactive they are on how we never got good teammates because of SBMM so they just uninstall. I think that they need to listen to the community more and maybe add a new mode. One mode with SBMM and then a casual mode with 0 ranks and just no matter if you die or win before you still get a mix of killers and teammates. I feel like more people are playing but more people are leaving, especially new players who just started and decide to play killer, win a game, then get very skilled players and just loose all hope and refund it.
Ive been playing VSH all weekend long and its amazing it looks super good and its fun as hell if you got good team mates! I cant wait for more ppl to try it out
I know I'm a little late for this discussion but, no, I honestly don't think either the DBD or VHS devs are scared of each other. DBD has and always probably will have a decent sized playerbase if JUST on the licensed characters alone and on the flipside, VHS, when you take a look at it, is a similar game in concept but couldn't be any different when you really start to look at it and, to add onto it, they're just starting so, give them some time.
I honestly never have and never will understand this stance that people have of having one being "scared" of the other and "hoping one gets so popular that it kills the other" like, that just wouldn't help anyone in the long run. What you want is a nice healthy competition where both devs can work and play off of each other making their own game better through updates, future content and such. Another thing is, let's just say that VHS DID kill DBD, eventually, people would begin to make the same complaints with VHS that they have with DBD. I really hope for the best when it comes to VHS, it would be nice to finally have another game where I can play whenever I get tired of DBD but, who knows what the future holds?
Can’t blame them… VHS’s are scary…
I feel that they are and they are not. I feel that they are not afraid as they are a large corporation with lots of money. But I feel that they are gonna kill them self’s from there choices. So they should be more afraid themselves then vhs.