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Is SBMM is KILLING Dead by Daylight? – GimmsRant #68
Scott Jund’s video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxPfwB1WBPM&t=314s
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About Dead by Daylight:
Dead by Daylight is an asymmetrical multiplayer horror game where one player takes on the role of a brutal Killer and the other four play as Survivors. As a Killer, your goal is to sacrifice as many Survivors as possible. As a Survivor, your goal is to escape and avoid being caught and killed.
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They Lied. Blatantly. For about the 30th time since I have started playing. Its more than enough to put my wallet back in my pocket, just about enough to not play anymore. Ugly state of affairs currently. And heartbreaking for the Gamer Inside Me.
Took a 3 week break or so and played again tonight. Still not fun
OhTofu discussed sbmm in his last twitch stream he said he thinks it’s a good thing for the game and that he doesn’t understand people’s points of why it’s bad
I’ve hit almost max mmr as pinhead I’ve been getting so many hackers and good survivors it’s insane I can’t win anymore lol
I’m one of those killer main that have left DBD’ I stopped playing back in October.
I’m not a red rank killer not that it means anything but my reason for leaving is because of MMR, I felt that no matter what I did in a Mach I felt punished, even if I win I knew that I’d lose the next match cause I was in this state where I’d win a Match and then have my ass handed to me in the next two. It just got stale at that point so I left and haven’t looked back
I got a question for everyone why do people still play dbd. Devs clearly don’t care about anyone part from there selfs. Also the community is toxic af. I stop playing dbd 3 mouths ago
Not quitting yet, but definitely discouraged. I will say this, been playing since launch and own all expansions, but I won't buy the upcoming chapter. Or anything going forward until things change.
i quit this dumpster of a game before RE dlc dropped and will spread the bad word for as long as I live #mathewisincompetent
Me trying billy for the first time: "oh this should be fun!"
Oh how wrong i was……..
Oh tofu likes sbmm says it's good because before sbmm he matched up against babies and most of his games were stomps but now with sbmm he has way more competitive games
Im two months into quitting the game i was a Michael main but i wasn't having fun with him anymore. And the fact im going against swf 70% of the time that kills stealth killer cause communication. I bought the game to play Michael to be feared like him in the movies but he's a joke in game(high mmr). I was also tried of using the same perks and going against the same perks.
The new matchmaking system makes me feel exactly how I felt with CoDs matchmaking in the last few years. No reward for getting any better and less variations in what people bring because it’s not the most optimal way to play. And since nobody really likes getting stomped, you feel compelled to run the best stuff as well. Maybe I’ve just been playing a ton in the last few months, but at this point I’m just burnt out. I don’t look forward to hopping on very much, and actively try to find something else to occupy my free time. If anything, especially playing as killer, I don’t feel like I’m playing a game. It feels like behavior just “pays” killers to be the bosses the survivors deal with and makes you babysit them while pretending that you are the power role and the survivors should fear you. Maybe I’m over analyzing because I’m half asleep, but it’s just kinda how I’ve felt for a while now
I like how Tru3 predicted MMR being a bad thing for DBD because of the poor balance design a year ago.
The problem isn’t inherently SBMM, but the way it’s calculated by only Escapes/Kills. How can it be based on ‘Skill’ when they don’t look at anything that happened in a match; the emblem system was better at showing who deserves to increase/decrease MMR tbh.
Scoring only Kills/Escapes is what is making games boring as there is no incentive to do anything else; killers may as well camp/tunnel/NoeD, and solo survivor is rough as players hide doing nothing while the team does everything.
I'm not even that great at the game and I've noticed my games ramping up in sweatiness. There's no sweet spot. I'm already losing interest in bothering to play weaker killers for variety because I get rolled whenever I do now.
MMR wouldn't be as bad as it is if, for god of sake, BHRV actually compromise with what haven it means.
Making actual balance changes, perk changes, map changes, but no.
They will realese the artist with nerfs to Pin head a killer that is difficult and doesn't get pretty rewarded for his own actions.
And…what else? More boons?
The artist and her perks are great but…idk
Honestly i liked the SBMM as survivor but killer is literally hell. There's many reasons why i've left the game like 2 months ago. I don't plan to going back into this stupid game. Bird lady isn't gonna change that. there's like 26 killers and only like 3 of them are balanced for all level play even if i'm sure only nurse matter now.
DBD is a game i like and probably the game i've played the most in the last 5 years. Now i can't stand it not because i'm bored or burned out. Just because of how devs are morons and toxic toward their community. I've played many online games but NEVER i've had as much issues then this game. This include bugs , forums , community , security , balance and hackers. I've played DBD from 2018 to 2021 i have 6k hours used to play 15h every day for one year then second year 10-12h then this year 1-3h with a huge resentment about killer balance is bad and survivor still the same and overpowered side.
It's ironic because i've played more survivors with my friends then killer but still played killer a lot like 2k-2,5h i imagine. No i'm back to my favorite activity which is speedrunning. Now you want to know why i liked SBMM. Because survivors were way better than before the improvement was there. Killer in the other hand just made the game the most stale experience ever made in a video game.
Should they remove the SBMM i don't think they should but he need improvement but even then, the fact the core issue still exist (gen speed , loops RNG and perks being bandaid for issues) will never make the game balanced or fun. Resident Evil Resistance tried and died for multiple reasons even if that game is way way better than DBD.
DBD is not the special game i liked in 2018-2019. the animations were not bugged (Billy in particular) , killers had a lot of tools to deal with loops being way stronger than now (Insta-saw , no cooldown nurse and omega blink) Now insta-saw is trash , nurse is boring to play i will even say unfun , twins have a 5s cooldown when downing someone which make no sense. Survivor pre drop pallet shift W meta is boring and no one is playing the game. The perks always the same boring thing (DH , BT , Ruin , Undying , UB etc…).
What kill it ultimately for me is that the game IS NOT FUN now. both side have changes that make the role feel i don't boring to playing. pre drop is boring as survivor and even more when playing killer. anti-loop killer every chapter which makes it even more boring. victor having a 5s cooldown for a successed down is boring and make no sense. Billy overheat reduce the skill based gameplay which is curving sure they make engravings better but that's specific to those addons. Nurse no comment , Legion have the longer fatigue of any killer in the game. Why ? because he had a broken state at launch. 4s of fatigue for a 20 cooldown (24s to recover because fatigue count as a cooldown unlike nurse). As this isn't enough each basic attack you do you lose 50% of frenzy gauge because almo or whoever designed this had the most stupid decision on a video game in existance.
I guess you get the point now. I've liked DBD but DBD is not DBD anymore people need to realize that. However i do think SBMM is neccesary in games now. Because there is some highly skilled player on any game now it's part of video game evolution. Plus high skilled streamers sell games or skins or whatever.
Thanks for reading.
I was a killer main and then I had to stop playing. I still play survivor but I can’t enjoy playing killer anymore. Seems like every match is just the same outcome. I have stopped playing killer games now though because of SBMM; I was a Demo and nemesis main. SBMM has made me play in a way that is not enjoyable. It feels like if I make ONE mistake I’m screwed for the whole game, so I take it seriously just to get shreked. Will not be playing for awhile. Btw Great video and enjoy the content 🙂
I still want the old cube back, that was proberly the best way that the old rank system worked
I don't feel SBMM is a bad thing at all. I just don't think it's the right time to implement it into the game yet. The foundation of the game needs updating, needs to become balanced and polished. Tru3 made a video explaining it, and I couldn't agree more.
My mate asked me about my opinion on how some perks could be changed, following the question with a link to Otz's video talking about that. I said to him that I can't properly judge which perks may need changing, how they could be changed or why, because the foundation of the game needs to change first, then it would be appropriate to think about changing the rest of it.
Lastly, when the game becomes polished and properly balanced and well designed – then it would be perfect time for MMR to be added.
I did notice myself play a whole lot less of DBD just in general since MMR was introduced (I'm with the game since 2016) because I can hardly enjoy it. I'm not even talking playing with/against the same perks or killers, losing or wining (I can lose and have fun) but the overall experience is just… Dull?
I still love the game as much as I did back in 2016 but I can't help it but look at its state realising how broken it is to this day, and how everyone seems to be at war with the other side (killer vs survivors) constantly harassing each other. People with a "God complex" making fun of others, people abusing the game's flaws and its poor balance to their advantage, the recent hacker issues and so on and on.
I don't know which direction this game wants to go anymore. Behaviour refuses to balance it for high level, treating it like a casual game, yet they introduce MMR and organise tournaments? Oh right, this game actually has people calling themselves "tournament players"? Christ…
Playing this game for an hour is exhausting at this point. If I could, I would 100% just play bots only and never touch the online aspect of DBD. I can't do that unfortunately, because for some reason this game just can't have that, despite the mobile version having it for the longest time.
Let’s see in the last two months.
They have remade meta perks as boons.
They lost the most killer sided map in the game.
They have nerfed 2 middle tier killers for no blatant reason.
And Sbmm turned the game into a sweat fest full of nothing but meta perks.
Tru3 once said this was a game balanced around players who don’t look back in chase and I’m starting to think he’s right.
It’s heartbreaking to see the game deteriorate, I need to search for reasons to play like doing the adepts for example and it shouldn’t be that way I should just want to play, unless they change the system or even just show us something, I don’t think I’ll get back into it as much as I was, we want something to be proud of not an imaginary number. Even if they brought back ranked I’d be happy at least it worked for the most part.
All they have to do is turn off mmr. Their pride and not wanting to listen to their community it's going to get to a point where there can't be a return.
Is it just me or is the background music Rayman music?
I've been a Killer main since Bubba came out, been playing almost every day for at least 2-3 hrs for YEARS. There's been a loooootttt of times that i've complained and bitched with my friends that i'm gonna stop playing killer, there's no point, but I always knew I'd be back….
But in recently months i've become so frustrated and enraged at this game that I had no choice but to stop playing. I am not an easy guy to make mad, nearly impossible, but in the last 6 months this game has upset me at points so bad that I am just pent up with frustration and emotion that the rest of my day/night is just ruined and I'm short with people.
If a survivor plays the game correctly, it's quite literally impossible to kill them. Everyone only runs meta perks, every loop is an infinite, way too many pallets, every item lasts too long and is too effective, gen speeds need to be drastically increased, etc. And don't even get me started on the BMing.
Literally EVERY single match, without fail, goes exactly like this:
-Lobby full of sweaty skins and flashlights/items
-Match starts, before you find anyone or initiate a chase, at least one gen is popped
-a few seconds into the first chase another gen pops
-by the time you down and hook them, another gen pops
-every single game starts with you being down 3 gens
-then the rest of the game is just a shit show of gens popping instantaneously, flashlight clicking, infinite looping, body blocking, DS, DH, UB, SB, Adren, etc.
-You lament in despair and resign to desperately face camping for just a 1k
-They throw everything and the kitchen sink at you and get the person off hook
-They body block out or they had adrenaline
-2 full mins of taunting and poor treatment
-post game racial slurs, belittling, and suicide suggestions
And thats if I have a good game.
The response is ALWAYS, "get better" "play better" "bring better perks", etc. But the truth is that unless survivors make a catastrophic mistake, there is virtually nothing you can do to get a win, or even a 2k.
I played like shit for the first year as killer, so that's whatever cuz that's how it goes. But for years now I've been steady red rank with about 6000hrs. I'm exceptionally good at killer, and yet there is nothing to be done.
So as of about a month ago I uninstalled and haven't thought about playing it once. It was fun while it lasted.
"I love getting stomped as killer in the majority of my matches" said no one. Other games have been giving better offerings, and it's been easy to walk away from DBD.
Deathslinger so bad he doesn't even get a tier.
Sad deathslinger noises