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49 thoughts on “Nerfing SWF? – Dead by Daylight”

  1. I think they need to fix matchmaking. I’m rank 6 and we would be facing killers who are like 17. I play Dbd with my friends and it is pretty fun but a good killer will make us crumble. I don’t mind dying but I want to have a fair chance. As soon as I get hooked I feel like the killer does everything in their power to make sure no one comes close to me. Main reason I play with friends is because when I solo, the rest of the survivors won’t do gens or try to u hook me. I play both killer and survivor equally. And I notice it is easier to win or keep a pip as a killer than a survivor. After a survivor match I worry I lost a pip but after a killer match I don’t even worry cuz I know I either pipped or didn’t lose anything. Maybe instead of buffing killers and survivors, both should get nerfed. Maybe survivors who are in swf should have longer gen process timer and for killers who are camping…idk what can be done about them

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  2. I kinda wish I could talk to others about some of the ideas I’ve thought about for the game to see how my ideas would work or if they wouldn’t work, good video btw

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  3. I think they should make telecomunications a part of the experience (voice chat support) and just buff all killers to compensate. Like global buffs to stupid shit like hooking, vaulting or i dont know… if they just buffed every weak killer bellow B tier we have ourselves a new game, i say this because the difference between nurse and trapper feels greater than the difference between a swf and solo surv.

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  4. I Dont See Why People Are Trying To Change The Game Based On If We’re Having Fun With Our Friends In A Multiplayer Game. What’s The Point Of Having A Multiplayer Game If We Get Bashed For Vibing With Friends ?

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  5. The problem isn't SWF on itself, but the usual toxicity that comes with it.

    Like Jaee said, I gotta remind myself you just can't win every single match, and usually I'm not even mad about it if I'm getting outplayed by a better player. I usually enjoy that challenge and the learning that comes from it, and praise them for that.
    But Solo or SWF, you can bet your favorite nut that if someone goes clicky-clicky or teabags after a stun I'm gonna start slugging, turbo tunneling and proxy camping.

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  6. I'm an on and off new-ish player, who plays the weaker/average killers(because I dont have all the dlc and alot of the meta killers arent my type) and tbh I avoid lobbies that have players from the same platform just because it MIGHT be a SWF.
    I dont think you can possibly nerf SWF but I wish we could get some sort of indicator that let us know who was grouped up. It'll give those who welcome the challenge a chance to gear up for it, and people who want nothing to do with swf can leave. And Im sure people will say that the queue times will get worse but imo the fact that a change so small can make them even worse shows just how unenjoyable it is 🤷🏿

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  7. If you can dodge a queue, you can dodge a ball.

    I'm like Captain Nope when it comes to queues that look sus. You bring a key, that's someone else's problem, cause I ain't sweating that out. I just wanna be chill. I can't have a good time playing killer when it turns into work from the drop of the hat. I'm still learning the game, I'm like rank 10 killer, don't match me against 4 rank 1's. The Entity ain't the only mf'er Displeased with that shit.

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  8. The issue lyes in the fact that you shouldn’t half to switch to a better build in order to beat a SWF. That makes the game boring imo. And the argument “just back out” would in theory be good if queue times weren’t so iffy depending on what time you play, what region, ping, etc. I think something does need to be done to make the game more balanced because personally I have to try harder as killer than survivor 90% of the time which sucks and probably turns a lot of people away from playing killer.

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  9. My 2 premades are rank 17 and 20 and I'm rank 4. Though I'm very bad at looping but I am good at planning stuff out in the game etc. But believe me if you play against me and my 2 other friends, we're gonna get clapped LOL. But we play for fun and try to learn the game better. Solo queue whatsoever… As a person that wants to try out more characters it's very hard for me because of the pressure I main Claudette because yes I am still scared, yesterday I barely had 2 heart attacks playing against Myers and Hag lmao BUUUUT it makes climbing hard if you want to try out new characters and perks and have no experience with them because you also have to kinda rely on a team you've never played with so it's always a lucky gamble. Not only for survivors but for killers too.

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  10. I just think most survivors don’t like good killers cos 1) they’re petty losers 2) they get moral when it’s to their benefits – as in they only remember that murder is not good and illegal when they’re 4k’d by 1 guy, it’s a 4v1, but they will fight against 1 dude together and just isolate the person playing killer more

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  11. But what is bringing better add ons going to do against a team of 2-4 players that can TALK to each other and counter play your every movement by simply telling each other, hey the killer is over here with me, slam the gens y’all…. To me it’s not fair at all.

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  12. How many times have I ran against very good loopers benefiting from teammates spreading out in a smart way. Many times they don't need to be a SWF to play well..

    People call any good team a ''SWF'' lol.

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  13. It would be nice if they limited the perks in a sfw team so for example only one ds can be there and for the other its blocked so they cant make a spec team out of it for gen rushing or sth

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  14. Correct me if I'm wrong, but base on what I've learn from this video, some SWF are impossible to win (god squad) some SWF are ok (casual). Doesn't that already indicate that there's an issue with the game and it need to be fixed? I mean telling killers to dodge suspected god squad or take the L shouldn't even be a solution at all. Just because its hard to fix doesn't mean the devs should sit on their asses and ignore it and the community should just accept it. Now imagine another game like Dota or Overwatch, certain combination of heroes are impossible to win against – that would have indicated a balance issue and warrant a fix. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that killers should win all the time but killers should be given a reasonable opportunity to win against god squad.

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  15. All the points you've made about improving the solo queue experience are so valid. DBD is kind of archaic in terms of what they have to offer in terms of communication for solo queue-rs.

    Even if it's voice lines that can only be heard by proximity it'll help for situations like when I need a heal but I have Iron Will and teammates don't realize I'm injured they just head off.

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  16. I mean you can't punish players becouse they like playing with friends. It's just sadly the truth, if they start punishing a cool squads just becouse killer doesn't like them this game will die quickly.

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  17. No we need to talk about how they are going to kill the last bit of players playing as killer. They are getting rid of moris, making an auto ban feature if you get reported a couple times, then letting survivors have totem perks too which completely hurts killer totem builds. It's ridiculous. Behavior is going to kill this game just to try and appeal to new people buy ruining the entire ecosystem the game is right now

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  18. Regardless if I'm playing solo survivor or killer; the thing I see most with swf groups is how toxic they get at the end of the trial. It doesn't matter if they die, escape, or whatever. They'll come up with something to be shitty about.

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  19. Listening to your video you have some great ideas but that would buff the hell out of a survivors. Also I feel like that would rob the true solo experience a survivor is suppose to go through. I personally like the game the way it is but I do feel like the killer should know that they’re going against a swf if not to change ya build then at least to prepare yourself and plan how you’re going to play against a swf, because that can be draining if they’re good.

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  20. Here is a good fix have proximity chat only survivors can here. Make it to wear you can turn it off and have a .5 second delay. This will make it to where they can’t be in coms otherwise it’ll be just the worst eco.

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  21. Make killer get more bp against swfs and perhaps show the killer who is in a team so that we can properly have an idea of who is who. Perhaps killer can opt to use a sacrificial offering for free against swfs. Something is better than nothing. for the casual players and for the sweatiest man alive. Right now killer isnt fun nor is it really fun to have optimized teams going against you every other match at red rank.

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  22. I really like and respect your input on this situation.
    It's not fair to punish people for wanting to play with your friends.. especially when a lot of them are like you said, not God squads.

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  23. I don't get it it's a game sometimes you win sometimes you lose get over it look at any game where there a 1vx type of game you will never win all the time if your not having fun don't play the game. Thank you for making the point about swf I run with atleast one other person and it's more frustrating getting cucked by a random running the killers to everyone to save themselves than having a tunnelling or camping killer, don't change swf just let the killer have a indicator if there is a swf in the lobby.

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  24. True talent will be the reason this game follows how bad fortnite went. The deva listened to the countless complaints about anything slightly against them made by content creators. If they start making changes based off what a small amount of content creators think, this game is even more done that it already feels. 🙁

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