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There’s no hope that the Freddy rework in DBD will be good. It might be okayish at best. The hopeless endeavor to include the failed binary sleep mechanic into his kit will not work.
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Oh… well… if you wanted a rework you could’ve just asked me… I got a completely new rework that makes him play differently. The Sleep Mechanic is gone. I can say that.
I think it would be cool if Freddy could turn into other killers and get their powers for a short time when survivors are in the dream world. Or even pretend to be a survivor and able to attack others in the dream world. But idk how that would work with license content or what killers could be used with how many are already in the game.
I love the nightmare on Elm street movies. If we could get a decent rework it might pull freddy fans.
Bring back the original version of freddy
I just want Old Freddy back. Bring him back and give him dream pallets. I miss old freddy so badly.
I miss 2019 freddy
Don’t get me worked up more then I am about this I’m already terrified for this buff I hope they at least let us alternate between pallets and snares instead of add ons. I hope they change some add ons too. I don’t want him to get fully reworked I like the idea of hindering people with traps I seen a recent interview with Mathieu where he made is seem like they’re changing his power completely maybe even removing dream world
The first rework idea is not boring….fucking survivor's and there complaining
They’re probably gonna remove dream world I’m calling it now
The sleep mechanic is a core part of the character outside of DBD. He is powerless in the real world. I have an idea:
Keeping the microsleep effect –
Dream Demon: the dream world is The Nightmare's world. During the trial survivors experience microsleep, after 30 seconds a survivor falls asleep and enters the dream world, while in the dream world nothing is what it seems. While in the dream world the nightmare has the ability to manipulate the tiles of the map, survivors in the dream world have a copy of them mimicking their moves and interactions, and awake survivors have a mirror image doing the same thing. Awake survivors can still wake up sleeping survivors and there are still alarm clocks survivors can use. When you use the secondary power button, Ctrl, you manifest into the real world effectively becoming an m1 killer, leaving the dream world, while in the real world survivors asleep cannot see you and when in the dream world survivors awake cannot see you, all they hear is the lullaby. When the nightmare hits someone while manifested he drags himself and the survivor into the dream world. Anything that happens in the dream world or real world affects the opposite world as well. When you use the power button in the dream world the nightmare can manipulate tiles and do things like spin them changing the layout of the tile and map or flip them upside down forcing survivors to crouch under windows instead of vaulting them. This applies to walls obstacles etc.
This rework would require allot of effort and optimization but it would be so cool if Freddy could actually change the map layout and manipulate tiles.
have patience, they are still working on the Twins rework, i wonder when it's finished, hopefully soon
i have made a concept a few months ago that included the deep sleep mechanic
Give him lullaby again and be strong in dream world, hitting survivors just doesn't work like he should
They need to make the dream world you don't want to be in i feel thats why you think all those concepts are boring, like yea playing survivor and being slowly doing a generator is gonna feel like shit but it is Freddy's domain and he can toy with you however he likes so it incentives people to get out or suffer the consequences cause when i play against freddy i dont care that I'm in the dream world but this would make me get off gens and make sure to get to a clock to wake me up
What if Freddy, instead of teleporting to generators he can teleport to any ASLEEP survivor since he is a dream demon, which will make survivors want to wake up, still being able to hit woken survivors
What if your wrong though
I just hope sometime soon they swap Reboot Freddy with the REAL Freddy with voice lines. Reboot Freddy could just be a brown rarity set. I have my doubts it'll be this year; maybe someday.
I don't really agree that the binary sleep system is flawed by its base nature, only it's implementation. It's not thematically perfect,but that's true for most characters.
The current problem is the nature of the killer's power is shitty clown and a mediocre teleport. Avoiding falling asleep isn't an engaging choice because he isn't very threatening when asleep and even if you wake up, by the time he finds you you'll likely be asleep soon anyways.
So overall we need a more kinetic, interesting chase power that makes people afraid to be asleep. Think wesker infection making you not want to stay infected. That makes it a choice rather than a "god damn it my teammate is an idiot because he's wasting time waking up" situation. It would also introduce more skill into playing the character. We also need the killer to play a role in putting them to sleep in exchange, perhaps like he did originally by targeting them.
If we're being lazy, a timed automatic debuff system like what we currently have can still work, but we still need more potency from the killer power and more counter in terms of the value alarm clocks bring, perhaps requiring they actively be chased for the last 30 seconds or be hit to fall asleep.
1:45 Strongly disagree. The problem is with implementation.
Number 1) It should be harder to wake up. Other asleep survivors should not be able to wake you up. And freddy should be notified if an awake survivor is waking you up. The alarm clock should be gotten rid of entirely. If you complete a gen that should wake you up.
2) The dream world itself should be more dangerous with more fake items for survivors to interact with. Like fake generators that let you get through a quarter of it and then takes a health state. Fake totems that take a health state and glow. Fake vaults. Fake chests that take a health state. Get rid of his blood pools. Fake pallets should stay. Theres probably more that could be done too, like breakable walls look like they arent there even if they are, or vice versa. Fake terror radius', fake lullaby. The dream world shoukd be as dangerous, scary, and confusing as possible.
I see you hste the dream gen idea 😂, the reality is freddy is a slow killer, there needs to be things that slow the game down. 50% is a bit much tho
+addition *complex/change -number change
freddy buff idea
Would love thoughts and opinions
+Gain the ability to place dream pallets and dream snares 5 of each
*New ability dream generators
Place a dream generator that only sleeping survivors can see and interact with, if interacted with survivors must work on it for 8 seconds, the last 4 seconds survivors must deal with repeated skills checks in which then the dream generator will disappear
+Dream generators appear in white
+healthy sleeping survivors who fails the skill checks or stops interacting with the dream generator become injured
+Injured sleeping survivors failing the dream generator alert Freddy of their location and allows freddy to teleport to that dream generator with a 1 second channel time
-Dream generators have no collision with awake survivors, and Freddy, only asleep survivors
+Cooldown is 50 seconds, can place up to 4 dream generators
+when teleporting to a generator gain killer instinct within 12 meters of the generator lasting 3 seconds
+Gain the ability to teleport to dream generators with a 1.5 seconds channel time but dream generator is removed
+Freddy's teleport channel time is 2.7 seconds
-Micro sleep
Survivors now take 30 seconds to fall asleep, instead of 60 seconds
-Dream Clocks
Buff duration from 30 to 40 seconds
– survivors in chase have their sleep and dream clock protection timer go down 2X faster
+ survivors that are hit by the killer will lose their dream clock protection
+ survivors who are unhooked gain dream clock protection timer
+When all generators are completed all dream clock protection are removed and clocks can only be used to wake up
+Reduced repeated wake up penalty from 4 seconds to 3 seconds
+wake up penalty maxes at 9 seconds down from 12 seconds
Add ons changes
Ultra rare
*Black box
start the trial with 4 dream generators already placed on the map
+Teleporting to dream generators does not remove them
+Increased dream generator cooldown by 60 seconds
-Red paint brush
No change
Ultra rare add ons
-"Z" Block
After using Dream projection, survivors within 20 meters of a generator or dream generator are revealed with killer instinct for 5 seconds
-Class photo
No change
-Pill bottle
-The nightmare is invisible to survivors who are awake beyond 16 meters
– survivors will see The nightmare intermittently at 4 to 16 meters
-The nightmare is invisible to awake and sleeping survivors while carrying a survivor, Breaking a pallet, generator, breakable wall, and vaulting a window
*Swing chains
For every dream generator that is active gain a 7% stackable buff speed bonus to picking up, dropping, vaulting, damaging generators, and breaking pallets, and breakable walls
Rare add on
*Blue Dress
Reduced cooldown of dream generators by 10 seconds
Start trial with one dream generator already placed in the map
*Jump rope
Increased range of placing dream snares, pallets and generator by 10 meters
*Nancy's masterpiece
Increased number of snares and dream pallets by 2
*Paint Thinner
Reveals aura of survivor for 5 seconds when a dream snare, dream pallet is triggered
Reveal the aura of the survivor when a dream generator is removed by them for 5 seconds
+ Unicorn Block
Triggering dream snares, pallets or generators inflict blindness for 90 seconds
Uncommon add ons
* Cat Block
After dream projection reveal the aura of survivors for 5 seconds within 12 meters.
* Green dress
Reduced the cool down of dream generator by 10 seconds
* Nancy's sketch
Increased number of dream snares and dream pallets by 1
* Outdoor Rope
Awake Survivors aura are revealed for 5 seconds when within 12 meters of a dream generator
* Prototype claws
Increased dream snares hinder by 5%
Common add ons
* Garden rake
Increased number of dream pallets by 3
* Kid's drawing
Increased number of dream snares by 3
Gain ability to place dream snares through walls
Increased dream snare size by 30%
Lose dream pallets
* Sheep block
Reduce clock protection timer by 10 seconds
* Wool shirt
Increased duration of dream generator repeated skill checks by 2 seconds
That's all the changes I have for Freddy, this is just my thoughts on what the changes for him could be
Making him more interested and less boring to play against.
I didn't touch on teleport cooldowns because I didn't know all the numbers but since survivors are sleeping more often I decided not to touch that aspect
Questions
1)Can you use toolboxes on dream generators?
Yes, and using toolboxes or perks will speed up the process of removing dream generators
2) What happens if you use a toolbox with brand new part?
The brand new part will be used but automatically removes the dream generator
3) can Freddy teleport to a dream generator if a survivor is working on it?
Yes, and the survivor will be kicked off it without any harm
4) what if Freddy finds me doing a dream generator?
He will be unable to grab you but can still injure you
5) what about maps and aura reading perks?
Aura reading perks such as deja Vu, and visionary will see Dream generators as regular generators
Thus throwing deja Vu speed bonus off real generator unless survivor is awake.
Maps however with the tracking killer belongs effect will be able to read dream generators as white instead of red.
6) how to counter dream generators?
Remember where Generators are when awake
Don't group up on generators that are unrepaired
Being injured only alerts Freddy, and allows him to teleport to it, if he's busy with another interaction, he won't be able to teleport on you, plus 99% heal tech
7) what about using potential energy on a dream generator?
Can use potential energy on a dream generator but can't charge it on a dream generator, 8 tokens of potential energy can remove a dream generator instantly
8) can the new posied work on dream generators, always revealing Freddy's aura?
Yes but only once from that generator placement, a new dream generator in the same location won't reactivate posied
9) does corrupt intervention block dream generators of the black box is used?
No dream generators are not effected by any generator perks
10) what about wire tap, and blast mine?
Those perks can't be used on a dream generator and remember that those perks don't work unless the generator has any amount of progress, but if a survivor were to try to use it on a dream generator while another survivor was working on it, it wouldn't activate
11) does terror radius and skill checks perks effect the skill checks of the Dream generator?
No, the skill checks are consistent and act as the perk merciless storm
12) does generator slowdown speed effect dream generators?
Yes they do just like how tool boxes and perks speed up the process, slow down perks make them last longer.
What the fuck are you talking about brother. "I read a bunch of ideas from non game devs and actually the idea is IMPOSSIBLE"
Mortal kombat 9 made freddy interesting so maybe it isnt so hard
Dont be such a downer. Its always possible they could have a creative idea. I mean the first freddy design was pretty cool and technically way more movie accurate than anything later. It just had major flaws like that he could be body blocked while carrying with ease. But it did remind of the movies when there was just a floating dude flying towards the hook if you were awake yourself.
That would explain why I have not played against Freddy for a long time but what don't make sense is now people have a problem with Freddy now and not when he first came to the game people need to start confronting issues the second the problem hits and not years later
Better late than never ahh video
I just hope its a huge surprise and his rework is awesome.