Looking forward to eventually play more killer again. Healing meta ruined the game for a lot of killers that rely on hit-and-run. Now they can make a comeback. Same goes for pro survivor play where you have to juke the killer to extend chases instead of constantly healing and go back into chase. The old DBD was much better than what we have now in terms of healing. Boons just ruined the game.
I’m loving these new changes haha it’s the most fun and fair the game has been in years haha no more crutch killer or survivor perks it’s just skill now
To be honest, I like the Dead Hard change specifically because you don't have to worry about it now every time you are right behind someone. It gets very annoying from the start of the match in its current state, sort of like how old Decisive Strike made every killer worry a survivor had it. With it slowing down considerably from this nerf, it might actually lead to some forgetting about it or thinking it's not common enough to worth waiting anymore, both possibly helping killer AND survivor there.
Thats what I've been saying, if the devs want to nerf gen kick builds and surv healing builds then get ready for the sweatiest gen rushing in a long while.
This is SOOO freaking silly. Even regular Wraith with sloppy butcher and 75% of the matches people just give up on healing because it already takes so much time to finish.
I like most of the changes such as blood web and the visual heart beat are great but what I don’t get is why nerf both med kits and dead hard why not one or the other. The meta will change to just sloppy butcher and hemorrhage now that it will take forever to heal your self or by another teammate. Not only will you most likely be injured most of the game now you can’t even rely on dead hard. Why nerf survivors that hard? I’ve got to say I think I’m pretty good at looping and managing my tasks but I still get sacrificed 70% of the time. I’m sure that’s across the board I’m sure survivors lose much much more then they win. They nerf us that hard for some assholes that want to be annoying to the killer every once in a while. I also play killer like a good 30% of the time and I can count the times I’ve gotten bullied or felt like there was nothing I could do to win. I swear this will make a lot of people stop playing especially the solo players.
As a survivor main, I don't want to spend the majority of my time watching a bar fill up. Gens were extended, now healing and recovering. Perks keep getting gutted. The proposed changes just show how out of touch they are with their own game and community. That part doesn't get walked back in a patch. This is a pattern with BVHR.
I think a token based dead hard would be better than…. whatever it is we're getting… also, why would they remove light burn? Let's just buff nurse again and remove actually fun mechanics 😅
if this patch goes through without any changes the games just dead, survivors will quit and u need more survivors than killers to play a match, deadhard overgutted, it was ok in its current form it still required skill to use and killer mains like otz who try to mind game it just made it look worse, easiest way to counter deadhard just hit it, and continue chasing that person yeah they get that extra hit and waste a bit of more time if they got it off, but u where not always constantly getting it off killers saw the few times it would work not all the times it failed which it did fail quite a bit after the update just due to how servers worked, painres, stupid change however what if they made it so the hooks rotate and u have to go throgh and hook all the survivors once and then it resets the perk to do it again, id be ok with changes like that because it also rewards the killer for actually downing people, im not a fan of no skill genkick metas, now for healing changes its stupid, ok killers didnt like medkits so keep them as they are now but revert healing back, also they overgutted boon CoH, all they needed to do was either make it so the person who sets the boon can selfheal while ur teamates gain aura reading, because why would anyone wanna run boon CoH when they can just run botany knowledge and not have to worry about wasting 16 seconds(and what ever it takes to find the dull totem) they could be on a gen setting down a boon
autodidact is going to become meda and pain res buff would be ever time a gen hits 50% once per gen or gets completed they get a stack back. so start with 4 and by the final gen they would have 11 or 8 (if gen has to be fully completed)
I feel like I'm one of the only people that actually kinda likes this update.yes a few things are out of place but the healing nerf gives the opportunity for people to use perks that haven't been touched by most in years (autodidact, botany knowledge for instance)
Concerning the healing: I played against Twins and Legion with sloppy yesterday and our only saving grace had been the fact that I was running We'll Make It. It was literally my job to be the unhook, take aggro, and heal person. It didn't take long for Killer to figure out I had be tunneled out (fair to them, I was pretty much a boosted and mobile CoH lol).
But that's not PTB. I can't imagine how gutting PTB would be. The way I see it someone will have to be the healer of the team, where your build revolves around helping your friends stay alive. That's pretty gutting as a solo q. You can't tell them to stay still after unhook because you have WMI, you can't tell them to stop running from you as you chase them with Bond, if you run Distortion you can't call out aura reading perks, and you can't alert people to perks/Killers that revolve around slow heals.
If this goes live, I'm reverting to Blendette mode lol.
The current healing meta started with the unnecessary Ironwill nerf last year, in my opinion. Because now you simply can't hide well once you've been hurt because you're loud. Especially since the Survivor are still different loud. After all, you want to play your favorites and not have to resort to Ace and Ada because they are quieter than others. That's why you try to avoid this by being uninjured in a round for as long as possible.
I used little to no Heal Perks before this nerf because they all had Ironwill. Now all my survivors have Circle of Healing in their perk build.
I'd increase the time to self heal (getting hit should feel punishing after all), but leave altruistic healing at 16 seconds basekit. So the game could maybe get back to being a teambased one again (even more with the very good Dead Hard changes) and that's it. But increasing ALL heal times is way too much
Sir, may I introduce you to Autodidact? It's quite a beauty, it gives 15% healing progress for each token you have if you're healing another survivor. Up to 5 tokens no less! That's 75% on 1 Good Skill Check! Brilliant! Healing taking 5 hours? Fret not, with this perk that's always been in the game, you too can heal in 2 good skillchecks!
Somewhat refreshing video. All the killer mains are laughing and putting 😂 faces when I say I'm not onboard with the healing nerfs. But I don't think those laughing killer mains understand that even with built in empathy for your teammates to see you injured, they may still not heal you. It happens. People are either to scared, or don't want to waste the time running to the other side of the map, or they just don't want to heal you. So killing CoH the way they did is what bothers me. And poor Billy, a species becoming more and more rare. And he's a fun killer to go against, it's a shame. This is just a weird update. And I don't know how to feel about it. Guess we'll see when it goes live.
So funny when killers get nerfed regularly and survivors get one bad patch it's the end of dbd, that's because the majority controls the direction of the game and that is survivor👑👑👑👑
Survivor mains can’t HANDLEEEEEEE their perks. med kits. etc… being nerfed!!! That’s how ya know survivor mains are bad at the game! Everytime when the devs nerf survivors, they all go BALLISTIC. It’s so funny! LMAO 💀 acting like it’s the end of DBD. They need crutches to carry em in order to win! And that’s just facts!
They would not nerf perks if people stop being toxic and keep using the perks it's called common sense my build will be fine I don't use those noob perks just to win
Healing might as well not be in the game anymore and we all should have 3 lives instead. I really dont like that gens take so long already and now healing. I didnt come to play "watch the bar go up" simulator
I'm just sad because this could hit hard for the new players and left feeling more frustrated than the experienced players. Self Care was already slow, and nerf the perk much more unnecessarily. The medkit nerf was stupid. I've never used Dead Hard at all so I'm not fussed at all.
They could have buffed the unused Survivor perks to bring the balance they want from all sides. This game will die out. They're only surviving for this long its because of lack of competition of 4v1 multiplayer games.
thank you for another informational video i agree with everything you said. i hope dbd finally finds a good place and stays there so we only will have to worry about new chapters and new game mechanics to come instead of older things like self care and such.
also how does your game look so good. are you using any filters or anything it looks great i want my game to graphically look that great. can anyone let me know?
Just saying as a hunch. Throwing it out there. Could it be possible that some of the more severe stuff could be an April fools joke they are doing? I mean it is tomorrow
I'm not playing dbd anymore for a while, i really like The game, have ALL DLC, play as killer and survivor, but The game always was more cruel to survivors than to killers, but this time is The worst time i ever see in The game, i'm giving UP, i'm playing evil dead, much less painfully t play as a survivor.
yeah thats what they all say
Never played the game and it's giving more incentive not to
What if they made deadhard token-based system
the weird 144p png that pops up on the screen is terrible
I think they’re tired of dbd and doing everything to ruin it 😭
Looking forward to eventually play more killer again. Healing meta ruined the game for a lot of killers that rely on hit-and-run. Now they can make a comeback. Same goes for pro survivor play where you have to juke the killer to extend chases instead of constantly healing and go back into chase. The old DBD was much better than what we have now in terms of healing. Boons just ruined the game.
I’m loving these new changes haha it’s the most fun and fair the game has been in years haha no more crutch killer or survivor perks it’s just skill now
To be honest, I like the Dead Hard change specifically because you don't have to worry about it now every time you are right behind someone. It gets very annoying from the start of the match in its current state, sort of like how old Decisive Strike made every killer worry a survivor had it. With it slowing down considerably from this nerf, it might actually lead to some forgetting about it or thinking it's not common enough to worth waiting anymore, both possibly helping killer AND survivor there.
I’m glad survivors are finally seeing how it has felt to play killer for years now 😂 time to suffer
Thats what I've been saying, if the devs want to nerf gen kick builds and surv healing builds then get ready for the sweatiest gen rushing in a long while.
Watching it made me upset why
This is SOOO freaking silly. Even regular Wraith with sloppy butcher and 75% of the matches people just give up on healing because it already takes so much time to finish.
I like most of the changes such as blood web and the visual heart beat are great but what I don’t get is why nerf both med kits and dead hard why not one or the other. The meta will change to just sloppy butcher and hemorrhage now that it will take forever to heal your self or by another teammate. Not only will you most likely be injured most of the game now you can’t even rely on dead hard. Why nerf survivors that hard? I’ve got to say I think I’m pretty good at looping and managing my tasks but I still get sacrificed 70% of the time. I’m sure that’s across the board I’m sure survivors lose much much more then they win. They nerf us that hard for some assholes that want to be annoying to the killer every once in a while. I also play killer like a good 30% of the time and I can count the times I’ve gotten bullied or felt like there was nothing I could do to win. I swear this will make a lot of people stop playing especially the solo players.
If this goes live as is I'll watch the player stats to see if people leave the game.
As a survivor main, I don't want to spend the majority of my time watching a bar fill up. Gens were extended, now healing and recovering. Perks keep getting gutted.
The proposed changes just show how out of touch they are with their own game and community. That part doesn't get walked back in a patch. This is a pattern with BVHR.
I think a token based dead hard would be better than…. whatever it is we're getting… also, why would they remove light burn? Let's just buff nurse again and remove actually fun mechanics 😅
Is this true? I’ve been playing today and it’s not long at all.
if this patch goes through without any changes the games just dead, survivors will quit and u need more survivors than killers to play a match, deadhard overgutted, it was ok in its current form it still required skill to use and killer mains like otz who try to mind game it just made it look worse, easiest way to counter deadhard just hit it, and continue chasing that person yeah they get that extra hit and waste a bit of more time if they got it off, but u where not always constantly getting it off killers saw the few times it would work not all the times it failed which it did fail quite a bit after the update just due to how servers worked, painres, stupid change however what if they made it so the hooks rotate and u have to go throgh and hook all the survivors once and then it resets the perk to do it again, id be ok with changes like that because it also rewards the killer for actually downing people, im not a fan of no skill genkick metas,
now for healing changes its stupid, ok killers didnt like medkits so keep them as they are now but revert healing back,
also they overgutted boon CoH, all they needed to do was either make it so the person who sets the boon can selfheal while ur teamates gain aura reading,
because why would anyone wanna run boon CoH when they can just run botany knowledge and not have to worry about wasting 16 seconds(and what ever it takes to find the dull totem) they could be on a gen setting down a boon
autodidact is going to become meda and pain res buff would be ever time a gen hits 50% once per gen or gets completed they get a stack back. so start with 4 and by the final gen they would have 11 or 8 (if gen has to be fully completed)
i m thinking developer wanna to end this game and now keep to reduce no of players. You can feel that since last yr big changes.
My game on xbox hasnt recieved this im not sad or happy its just whatever i still play🤷🏻
I feel like I'm one of the only people that actually kinda likes this update.yes a few things are out of place but the healing nerf gives the opportunity for people to use perks that haven't been touched by most in years (autodidact, botany knowledge for instance)
Concerning the healing: I played against Twins and Legion with sloppy yesterday and our only saving grace had been the fact that I was running We'll Make It. It was literally my job to be the unhook, take aggro, and heal person. It didn't take long for Killer to figure out I had be tunneled out (fair to them, I was pretty much a boosted and mobile CoH lol).
But that's not PTB. I can't imagine how gutting PTB would be. The way I see it someone will have to be the healer of the team, where your build revolves around helping your friends stay alive. That's pretty gutting as a solo q. You can't tell them to stay still after unhook because you have WMI, you can't tell them to stop running from you as you chase them with Bond, if you run Distortion you can't call out aura reading perks, and you can't alert people to perks/Killers that revolve around slow heals.
If this goes live, I'm reverting to Blendette mode lol.
The current healing meta started with the unnecessary Ironwill nerf last year, in my opinion. Because now you simply can't hide well once you've been hurt because you're loud.
Especially since the Survivor are still different loud. After all, you want to play your favorites and not have to resort to Ace and Ada because they are quieter than others.
That's why you try to avoid this by being uninjured in a round for as long as possible.
I used little to no Heal Perks before this nerf because they all had Ironwill. Now all my survivors have Circle of Healing in their perk build.
All this because Bcoh hahaha.
What’s the chances that the horrible healing nerf actually gets in the final game? Or will they listen to community n scrap it
I'd increase the time to self heal (getting hit should feel punishing after all), but leave altruistic healing at 16 seconds basekit. So the game could maybe get back to being a teambased one again (even more with the very good Dead Hard changes) and that's it.
But increasing ALL heal times is way too much
I'm hyped for the healing nerfs as a killer and a survivor it opens new game play and new playstyles.
Survivors can use autodidact and desperate measures to heal quickly as the game goes on
Killers hits actually means something and can open up new builds for legion and or any hit and run
I'm staying positive about these changes. And I can't wait to see the Meta change to a team based focused rather than healing yourself style of play
Sir, may I introduce you to Autodidact? It's quite a beauty, it gives 15% healing progress for each token you have if you're healing another survivor. Up to 5 tokens no less! That's 75% on 1 Good Skill Check! Brilliant! Healing taking 5 hours? Fret not, with this perk that's always been in the game, you too can heal in 2 good skillchecks!
YouTubers love to fearmonger. Chill, the game isn’t gonna die.. it’s a PTB.. the T stands for TEST!
I was thinking about coming back to play. Seeing this ensured I won't. Ty for sharing.
No these are good and healthy changes. Git fuk'd
Somewhat refreshing video. All the killer mains are laughing and putting 😂 faces when I say I'm not onboard with the healing nerfs. But I don't think those laughing killer mains understand that even with built in empathy for your teammates to see you injured, they may still not heal you. It happens. People are either to scared, or don't want to waste the time running to the other side of the map, or they just don't want to heal you. So killing CoH the way they did is what bothers me. And poor Billy, a species becoming more and more rare. And he's a fun killer to go against, it's a shame. This is just a weird update. And I don't know how to feel about it. Guess we'll see when it goes live.
So funny when killers get nerfed regularly and survivors get one bad patch it's the end of dbd, that's because the majority controls the direction of the game and that is survivor👑👑👑👑
Survivor mains can’t HANDLEEEEEEE their perks. med kits. etc… being nerfed!!! That’s how ya know survivor mains are bad at the game! Everytime when the devs nerf survivors, they all go BALLISTIC. It’s so funny! LMAO 💀 acting like it’s the end of DBD.
They need crutches to carry em in order to win! And that’s just facts!
They would not nerf perks if people stop being toxic and keep using the perks it's called common sense my build will be fine I don't use those noob perks just to win
They basically activated the rumbling trying to get rid of 80%…of the playerbase…
Healing might as well not be in the game anymore and we all should have 3 lives instead.
I really dont like that gens take so long already and now healing. I didnt come to play "watch the bar go up" simulator
I'm just sad because this could hit hard for the new players and left feeling more frustrated than the experienced players. Self Care was already slow, and nerf the perk much more unnecessarily. The medkit nerf was stupid. I've never used Dead Hard at all so I'm not fussed at all.
They could have buffed the unused Survivor perks to bring the balance they want from all sides. This game will die out. They're only surviving for this long its because of lack of competition of 4v1 multiplayer games.
I miss insta saw Billy
thank you for another informational video i agree with everything you said. i hope dbd finally finds a good place and stays there so we only will have to worry about new chapters and new game mechanics to come instead of older things like self care and such.
also how does your game look so good. are you using any filters or anything it looks great i want my game to graphically look that great. can anyone let me know?
Just saying as a hunch. Throwing it out there. Could it be possible that some of the more severe stuff could be an April fools joke they are doing? I mean it is tomorrow
I'm not playing dbd anymore for a while, i really like The game, have ALL DLC, play as killer and survivor, but The game always was more cruel to survivors than to killers, but this time is The worst time i ever see in The game, i'm giving UP, i'm playing evil dead, much less painfully t play as a survivor.