Rant: "Skill" In Dead By Daylight



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  1. Idk when the no skill argument started becoming a scapegoat for anything outside FPS games but I know when it started and I was one of the pioneers of it. It mostly caught on during Counterstrike back in the pre1.5 days when people used to use the auto-sniper that had near-zero recoil and would instantly put people down while being one of the most accurate guns in the game, but that wasn't even really that much of an issue. When it REALLY became an issue was Call of Duty with "Noob-Tubes" people would use it as a cheap way to secure a solid KDA because it was almost indefensible to play against. They aim in a general area, shoot an underbarrel explosive that somehow wipes out a ballroom's worth of players. Never fun, still call it skill-less to date because its a cheap gimmick that literally requires nothing, not even precision. So what would be the Dead By Daylight equivalent of a Noob Tube? Nothing really. So its always hilarious when people bring up "no skill" builds and perks because they're playing themselves. There is nothing in Dead by Daylight that a 5 year old could load into a match with and wipe a team with, but there sure as hell was in Call of Duty lol. Noob Tube was only one of many, many examples too.

    Suffice to say, whenever someone says you have no skill or are trash, just keep doing as you're doing, your only making them look worse by telling them they lost to a unskilled trash player. Unless you could somehow T3 Meyers Mori people on every single first hit w/ unlimited time, theres nothing they can genuinely complain over. Similar for Killers, Unless Survivors can literally open the gates within a minute of the match starting, theres nothing you can really complain over.

    DBD funnily enough too actually has a lot of skill involved. It's not a massive learning curve or anything like Escape From Tarkov or League of Legends or something where it takes months of dedication and learning to understand each individual mechanics. Instead DBD just highlights learning how to be aware, how to loop, where pallets are, which loops are infinites, etc. Which comes pretty naturally as time goes on for both Killer and Survivor. Outside of that yeah, skill starts to fall flat, and it becomes more about just on-the-fly decision making and playing off mistakes. Not so much a relative skill as much as it is cognitive function but I digress, DBD still has levels of skill involved.

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  2. You say skill doesn't matter, but i would argue you do need a base level of skill in order to win, at least as killer.
    The minimum skill requirement isnt high by any means, but it is present. Its basically just past knowing what button does what.

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  3. As a survivor main ive noticed one not every match is the same, sometumes i loop well sometimes i dont, i always try to see my own faults rather than blaming the killer or my randoms, i love this game and try to spread positivity as much as i can, yeah i still meme teabag ect buti dont get mad when a killer does the same in fact i fond those games more fun! Also love ya spooks 😊

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  4. Altruism is an expectation for the game – in scoring for survivors and pre-pandemic was a community expectation for killers (I.e. a moral way to play where people would frown on things like basement Bubbas). SpooknJukes often uses a meme like Real Estate Bubba and considers it funny, but Survivors quality of life in these games are so poor for it. SnJ knows it – it’s why he pretends he’s exploring a meme or killer exploit rather than just playing at a low common denominator and then discounts survivors communication as salt. It also probably helps his subs and It’s why I stopped watching him. Since 6.0.0 patch BHVR has created a serious imbalance in the game because they have made things like tunneling a very successful strategy – especially in lower MMR games. So SnJ is correct -it can take no skill to be a killer (exception when playing against 4 or 3 team SWFs who are too cocky as well). I do miss the older DBD where most killers respected and realized survivors aren’t objects but people trying to have fun and earn blood points.

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  5. I sort of am in the middle. If your playing a killer that can one shot you, for example, one shot Myers, or Leatherfaces that just spams his chainsaw, or killers that do nothing but camp or tunnel, to me those players have absolutely zero skill. But other than them when I lose I don't really care most of the time I just say gg and move on.

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  6. I got a salty survivor exactly like this the other day. Whenever I say "I tunneled because there was 1 gen left", they always say, "I've played killer since release, so you just have no skill". Every time…. It blows my mind

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  7. I had a legion game on vecnas map where the survivors refused to heal even for basement saves.

    A guy called me out for camping basement, even though I didn't… I would leave and then come back after someone would get unhooked.

    I kept trying to explain to them I wasn't camping, but they kept changing the definition of camping to whatever I would say (even if what I said wasn't camping in the slightest) so I gave them a guide on how to tell if theyre being camped. By watching the anti-camping bar while on hook, if you get to unhook yourself you were camped.

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  8. I wouldn't say dbd players have skill, it's more of an experience game. I have 5k hours, I go up against a killer with 12k hours I'm going to lose most likely due to their greater experience.

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  9. Every time anyone says anything about "skill" or "skill expression" I let out a little chuckle
    The devs did a really good job keeping the skill floor and ceiling really low and making almost everything based on rng

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  10. There's a lot of skill in DBD, but there's also a TON of luck and outside factors

    Like as a killer, playing against a survivor on super high ping is just annoying as hits just don't register

    But even outside of bugs, there's a lot of luck such as what perks the other side brings, maps, what tiles and pallets the map spawns. I've played games on coal tower where windows chain so easily and others with so many 4 lanes 😊😊😊

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  11. I got a 4 kill round with Wesker the other week and dealt with a really nasty Survivor in stream chat. They claimed they were tracking my IP address, said they were going to smash a baseball bat across my face and claimed my parents were going to dress in black (insinuating they were going to kill me). I guess I shouldn't have went for a 4 kill as Wesker with a lame duck build that barely functioned?

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  12. Getting salt is one thing but some survivors go way further than salt. I had a match today running no perks or add ons and got a 4k because of survivor mistakes and in endgame one of the survivors told me to crawl in to a warm bath , grab a razor blade and end myself because I was a horrible person. Getting that upset over a game seems to me like maybe they should get some therapy or some medical help. Don't get me wrong on occasion I get upset but I always just say GG and move on to the next match.

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