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I think it might honestly be better later even if its just after mid chapter just because we will have had more time
I honestly loved the majority of what came with this chapter! The Unknown RULES! The horror in DBD is BACK, baby! The Unknown is a creepy mf who I LOVE to play as and against who can kill you in your face and can hit you from all over the map and can teleport and the marketing was spooky and Sable was spooky (in the most
way possible) with really fun lore and cool perks, and the map was iconic looking! Unbound and Undone are fart noise perks and the plates are kinda crap…. Everything about The Unknown felt like it was made for me personally though because it's my style of horror and it's my style of gameplay so I feel like I was gonna have bias. But really… It's been a long time since we've had an original killer this ICONIC!!! They put their hearts and clones into this one.
I like sable. (I have a head cannon lore) that sable is imaginary friend of mikaela and we're seeing a different point of view of mikaela. Entity saw that in her mind so they made sable into reality and it be cool to have a non-living being interact with other survivors. (Sable secretly an entity spy to find observer)
I don't like Sable's lore, because of how randomly she pops out in Mikaela life. She wasn't mention neither in Mikaela's base lore, nor tome one, so she feels like smth forsed, rather than a part of the plan from the begining. And its kinda lame
Esthetically, Greenwell is SOOO beautiful. But it's pallet design and it's enormous size is what killing it for me. Like. Every time I play it, I don't have time to play both on theater and statue side before the game ends.
But Unknown is cool. I like, how many skins you can make for it, I LOVE it's lore, I look forward to it's tome. So yeah. Only killer and aesthetic of the map is what I like abt tgis chapter
BHVR‘s reaction
Let‘s fire the people who where behind the teaser campaign (the freaking best teasers we ever got) lmao
I just showed up here and I already like your personality and commentary. Here’s hoping you continue retrospectives like this for future chapters?
As a wallbang fanatic, I definitely want to learn unknown for those cheeky wallbangs with the UVX, but his ridiculous counterplay is making it REALLY hard to learn. Super discouraging imo.
Am I psycho for thinking Sable's scream is cute?
Sable and unknown are pretty much polar opposites as to why i don't like them. I like sable's design but her lore feels like a taped on afterthought. I like the unknown's lore but the visual and power design are not my favorite. As for vecna I enjoy the items survivors get, and having to keep track of what spells are on cooldown, and his perks are interesting. One of the best anniversary chapters IMO.
When it comes to Vecna, I love going against him. I have played DND for years, and now I can face the BBEG. I have him, not used him yet, and I hope to get moried again.
nah, looking mechanic is great.
I thought that All Things Wicked was one of the best chapters we’ve ever had.
Until we got DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS I really think the D&D chapter is perfect in every way. I actually look forward to having against Vecna as survivor, I love the survivor perks and the killer perks are all they need to be.
All of the designs, especially the map, are gorgeous. The map has some weirdness with the portals but I think as everyone gets used to them it won’t be too difficult
10/10 chapter somehow even showed up All Things Wicked. D&D for the win always, dunk on the losers who said “D&D doesn’t fit in dead by daylight”
Vecna has been a roller coaster for me so far. Played him thirty minutes to an hour after he released, played him that entire day, and absolutely dominated the Survivors while they were figuring out how to use him. Then, at about… I wanna say 1AM, a switch flipped. Survivors were suddenly outplaying me on every turn, the build I had made went from being very reliable to complete trash, and it was just… phew, perfectly balanced, I guess. Kicked ass for the first day while Survivors struggled to figure out his counterplay, got my ass kicked the next and had to figure out how to go against the Survivor counterplay..
Still, really loving him though. Got his fully bloody set now, which looks really good on him, and trying out the classic Obsession Roulette build on him and it's going pretty well so far.
I hate his nose, though.
Sable is the new baby Meg
Idk why people say twins were never good, before Mikaela and the introduction of Circle of Healing, they were a force to be reckoned with
It’s not that people think the twins changes were bad. It’s the fact that we were pissed that after two years of waiting, all we’re got were minor (yet very good) quality of life changes.
I've not actually played as the new chapter but the unknown seems pretty strong I was asking for years for a cryptid killer, as for survivor I'll stick to Laurie and Nea sable is too popular for me to like her.
I think i'm one of the few who despised this chapter, i hate it because of literally everything and the only thing i like from all of this were the aesthetics of the characters and the map.
The Unknown is literally the reason why i left another game, because he is not a new killer, i don't care what other people says about him on how polished he is, how fluid is to play, the thing is that he is not a new killer! We have PLENTY if not TOO MANY of ranged killers, we also have already a reveal mechanic killer, we also have too many teleport killers, not to mention that back in the day his teaser really caught me off guard and i thought he would have an actual new and original power, but no.
The map is pallet city for killers and 3 gen square for survivors, the killer has literally no reason to go in the bar, like at least add a generator in the parking slot.
And Sable's lore is…. Oh my god…. Ugh.
Like i'm a Mikaela main so yes i'm a bit too biased on this but she's not just forced in her lore, she also contradicts Mikaela's lore by saying that she actually likes comedic horror, that she didn't wanted tatoos when she is covered by them, she's close to Mikaela when in her tome she just talked about Julian like if she was obsessed and the "excuse" to make her enter in her realm is just duh?
Damn it even the perks are not creative jeez the best perk in this chapter was unforseen and it's literally dark devotion on the generators instead than the obsession! Ok rant over!
11:10 Unfortunately the person responsible for the teasers was laid off :/
The Unknown is a killer I love design and theme. I hate the power because it makes no sense for a killer of this design and the teasers kind of made some people (including me) think that they were going to be a killer who can bend and move unnaturally as a power. Slithering under pallets, twisting and launching themselves through windows at incredible speeds, Squeezing into lockers for a ambush or maybe even hiding with a survivor while in a locker. There was so much potential for a Contortionist power and I was disappointed with what the Unknown got for a power. Don't get me wrong I love the unknown's current power, I just hate the fact another killer didn't get the power instead of the unknown.
Honestly I love this chapter but if it's kind of stained in a bad light due to what happened after the chapters release. Keemstar (That old loser) tried to paint Bhvr in a bad light by taking advantage of the fact the voice actress for the unknown is trans and even turned her against them for a minute just for her to do a 180 and glaze bhvr. That could of ruined the chance for other trans voice actors to be hired for stuff in the future, not by bhvr but other companies who watched this situation. Twitter will be Twiiter I guess.
At first I was iffy on this chpt but decided to get it as the same time as vecna. The I played them. The unknown is so easy to play. They have been the only one I've played for the last few days. I'm currently on a 31 4k killstreak with them. It's been nice to do the dominating instead of being bent over and rawdogged.
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Ay dope a kaiser vid dropped. Nothing like a hot coffee and awful takes in the morning
As someone who plays a lot of the unknown, ngl…the counterplay for the unknown actually isn't too bad. Sure, it can be really annoying when they keep geting rid of weakened quick enough and you don't damage, but for me at least that usually means theyre just way better than me and its less a killer power thing and more just a skill issue. By default, even if they stare at you, you have 3 seconds to shoot another uvx at them, plus line of site blocks or them looking away gives you even more time. Ive played against unknown a lot and the counterplay is very interactive and not too hard, yet still not too easily and still has its risks. I thought it'd be awful hearing about it from ptb, but in my experience on both sides it feels far more fun, easy, and engaging then artists crows or such.
Unknown is my favorite original killer. It was the dredge when I first started playing killer but dredge could use some love.
Invocation spiders is no longer dogshit. You bring this and spare parts and you will have the killer cursing up a storm.
saying "i dont care about your arguments on how it does work" when talking about the Unknowns weakness is pretty counterintuitive in a discussion video. I could give very good reasons as to why it does work thematically and mechanically but i guess discussion is off the table when its a mechanic you dislike
I really believe the counterplay of looking at the killer to get rid of the weakend status is great tho
I was worried Vecna would be overly complicated and annoying but after a match or two, it wasn't bad at all. I think he adds new loop mechanics that are fun to explore and I'm excited for the community on both sides to figure it out together
I dont mind the debuff, theres counterplay …. but getting 2 teleports at every loop is just bs.
That needs to go, no husks should spawn during a chase
Perks are okay, i see myself sometimes using a few of them.
Killer is overall fun to play and vs
Map is okay
Decent chapter i would give it a B+
Honestly unknown has been one of my most played killers since this chapter release and got me back into this game. The weakened mechanic is fair, I think maybe it could take a bit longer to look at the unknown to get rid of it, but overall I think unknown is super well designed and balanced. Probably the best designed killer since Wesker.
The UVX is dodgeable yes but fairly so, and you can use the AoE and the properties of how the ball travels and bounces to get some of the spiciest hits of any killer. The way the weakened status works allows you to go for quick hit and runs, since you actually have to look at the Unknown and it’s very to use the teleport to break LoS. If it were another way to get rid of it, it would remove a lot from the killer imo both thematically and gameplay wise. The grace period should be removed though. There’s also a lot of thought involved in where to place the Hallucinations and using the teleport to get super quick downs or shoot from unpredictable angles to make it hard for survivors to dodge. Bodyblocking is also useless against unknown since the UVX is an AoE and the UVX post launch hit cooldown is so short that you absolutely rip through health states.
Unknown can be rough to learn, I’ll give you, but is very rewarding to in a way that someone like Singularity isn’t imo. You have one of the most oppressive 1v1s in the game, instant map mobility, and you’re a 4.6 killer that can attack from massive distance. Also unknown imo is absolutely one of the best killers at turning around games simply because you have such good map mobility and you have the potential to any point get a super big UVX hit that injures multiple survivors.
Is sable fetish bait? That comment had me thinking.