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Now that the PTB has been out for almost a week, it’s time we started talking about the possibility of the features coming to live servers at a later date.
Here’s why the PTB doesn’t work and why those features shouldn’t be coming any time soon!
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:59 What Changes Did We See?
1:53 The Flashlight Nerf
3:19 Killer Perspective on The Changes
4:42 Survivor Perspective on The Changes
5:42 The Promotion of Slugging
7:2 Possible Improvements and Final Thoughts
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Personally, I think the mori change takes away the fun, and the challenge of trying to get a 4k of moris. I spent a whole day of playing once challenging myself to get the 4k, all moris, on all killers, and damn was it fun to have that challenge.
Also I think the finishing mori doesn't factor in things like being able to wiggle off the shoulder, and prevent the hook, and running for hatch, etc
The real reason seems to be the unbreakable at base kit is for casual survivor players, with no consideration about high level play. The Devs should admit this and reverse the mori system and just give extra blood points as a payout to the killers for playing this game online. Admit the truth devs, and just hurry up with the bot modes for killer please. I feel sorry for killer mains in this game at high levels.
I hate the flashlight nerf. They didn't have to take it down to less than 2 clicks per second to make the game more accessible to epilepsy sufferers. "Sensitivity under 3 hertz is not common." They didn't need to nerf them so hard. It is no longer possible to click to correct a mistimed blind, clicking devours battery life and clicking to get another survivors attention (like to get a heal) is no longer feasible.
They should have gameplay options for epilepsy sufferers that could be toggled to lessen all flickering present in the game rather than destroying flashlights directly.
There are others options to fix the issue with flashlights and photosensitive people, like visual changes as an option. Like not bright flashlights, using blacks and greys (they already used on Dredge pasive), not yellow-red-white flash. But now, you can't no longer "readjust" the timing if you start blinding a little bit early (and I think is the main complain here).
Let's say that there are 4 survivors with flashlights with this new ajustment, and they are "timing" interleaved their flashlights to create a epilepsy effect or 4 granades and the effect of lights on the screen. The change they made doesn't solve the main issue with epilepsy. I dont think this case will happen (and I hope it doesn't) but it could, and you have to think about it too.
I'm down for improvements with accesibility. But good improvements.
I agree. Scrap this update. Not much good going to come from it. Unbreakable base kit isn't going to stop slugging just like borrowed time base kit didn't even put a dent in tunneling. You can't change the game to fix the human element. If a killer wants you gone they're going to come after you. They want you on the ground they'll keep you there. Think of it this way. From the killers perspective when the gates are open and the survivors are in the exit way across the map and won't leave, the game can't force them to. Killers are thinking "geeeez fucking leave already so I can GGs and get another match" Is there an update that's going to fix that? No. Same goes with slugging and tunneling and camping. They're part of the game. Always going to be
Ok so this comment might not get too the point so I apologize if anyone reads this if u can't handle my grammar then don't bother reading not being mean I just don't want people replying about it I've had it before and yes ok it's terrible I'm not good with perfection I'm just writing whatever lol just skim through it if u like I will have some spacing if it will help u out tho ok here's what I have too say.
So I've been away from dbd since pinhead or artist was out when I heard about the other killers sadako dredge Wesker coming in I've been playing when dredge came in cause of the lockers being used for a killer now but yea I mean I've seen all updates videos of other YouTubers twitch talking showing hearing their thoughts about it etc and I mean I can understand it why it's coming in but this update I mean there a lot too say first thing is the flashlight.
Ok everything but the flashlight is alright with me and ngl too the people who are like WHY U NERF THE FLASHLIGHT THATS NO FUN WE WANT ARE CLICKY CLICKY CLICKY I guess they never thought about people who play this game might have epilepsy and yes ok the flashbang and mines would be a thing still I'm positive that anyone who has epilepsy they possible will always bring the lightborn and no that doesn't mean everyone has epilepsy I'm just saying anyone in general could bring lightborn for other reasons.
Bully squad or just only that will bring a full flashlight but aren't bullies so its whatever but I'm just saying in other words u have the clicky t-bag point or staying around for a bit as a toxic way or something but taking the clicky away is horrifying for those that loves clicking no offense too any I watch on YouTube that loves clicking idk lol.
Now as for the unbreakable situation and mori I mean I love the new Mori system it's a way of ending the game quickly no matter what just say we can get into games more quickly and etc even end a bully squad if we have too but the unbreakable.
I mean like I get that survivors hate slugging and they don't bring unbreakable most the time and they want too get back up and continue playing but here's the thing survivors even if u don't want too understand how hard both sides are then idk what too say u have the killers trying too have fun too but Survivors just makes it so much work for them too just get some fun for yourself as survivors ik gens is boring and u hate letting people see just doing gens I mean I rather chase survivors too get more action and fun but it's whatever for u but like everyone has lots of stuff too do in order too win and also the reason why killers slug u is for lots of reason ds applying pressure for ur teammates too get off the gens and come help u slowing u all down getting the hooks kills to make ur efficiency lower and giving killers an advantage.
Yet everyone thinks it's all about them only I mean killers yea cause they aren't helping anyone they are there too kill u sacrifice u or Mori u Survivors u are the ones helping each other solo or swf killers have their own fun and u do too but u can't get mad if the killers don't always pick u up cause u act like the killers will be foolish too pick u up yes sometimes only cause u are dead on hook or u are the only one who had hooks or they just can't find the others so u can't get upset if u get tunnel out cause even tho u didn't want too have the rest being seen cause they doing gens sacrifice u would help them get the gens done for ur Honor depending how many is left.
Ok I'm getting off topic even or but u should get that I hope but the unbreakable ok I mean like just getting back up all the time plus using the certain perks just too make it faster would be more annoying I mean it's bad enough a boon and a no mither gets u up all the time but like having it infinity is just more work but I mean killers can just still tunnel u out and lower the unbreakable situation cause 4 too 3 is a bit much depending so I mean yea there a lot of pros and cons but I'm not smart too full understand it I just don't know why this would be a thing
I don't like the finishing mori thing because that renders a lot of parks and abilities borderline useless. Say you have decisive strike or deliverance or something and you can maybe get a clutch save on your party at the very end. If all it takes is doubting everyone to get a finishing mori well all of that stuff goes out the window.
Ask for the bass kit unbreakable thing, I don't necessarily think it should be given to everyone. I believe if you are the last survivor in, a match THEN you can get unbreakable.
Because like imagine you are the last person in a match and pretty much your only hope is maybe trying to find the hatch. And you've crawled yourself to an area where the killer can't find you. Now your only hope is to hope you can crawl to wherever the hatch is without the killer finding you or just waiting to bleed the death. If the last survivor standing gets basic unbreakable that will give them just a little bit more of an edge to being able to make it to the hatch.That's still leaves the issue of the killer Closing the hatch or beating them to the hatch but at least they'll be able to do it on their feet.
My suggestion is what I suggest probably two years ago. Keep everything the way it is currently delete the Mori offerings and then make the cypress mori base kit.
Allows you to Mori a survivor if either
A.) Everyone else is dead
Or
B.) Everyone escaped and someone messed around at the exit gate
You can still Mori with devour, and rancor and since the game doesn't insta end with a Mori slugging is less incentivized. Oh since in my version the Mori is a choice the killer can still choose whether to Mori or carry to hatch
I understand the slowing down the flashlight clicks but the movement should remain the same instead of having it practically facing the floor lol I also feel like if you don't bring unbreakable the rest of the perks from what they've improved was pointless because they wanted meta builds gone and unbreakable would have to be meta. I agree with the 1v1 finishing mori but if they do scrap it then fair enough. If they scrap the idea I would still do the unbreakable update, however I would make unbreakable the perk to at least about 20% faster and not 100% because I mean it would just be a repeat of a boon situation where the healing was 100%
It could go off based on hook states the finishing mori like if all the survivors are on 2nd hook state or the match has been longer then x amount of minutes then maybe ast stand can activate anyone left in the game with those conditions finishing mori applies as the last stand forsure to the 1 survivor standing and the killer still up at that point that killer more then likely won already. But I think scrap the whole idea is what I think finishing mori and basekit unbreakable. lot off killer have a hard time dealing with 4 health states on survivors I've seen killers get stomped by the base kit I haven't even wanted to touch the ptb because of this I am average skill level I like using m1 killers but they got a hard nerf. I also see the finishing mori being kinda a better thing like the scenario of a sabo boil over, flip-flop squad who are near impossible to hook or bully squads. What does the killer do in that scenario basically one way to win is to slug. basekit unbreakable buffed them substantially considering the 45 seconds timer can be reduced. Also if survivors split up it makes it harder to get the finishing mori going into a locker makes killer have to pick second survivor up waste time in animation then drop them or hook them while other survivor recovers on the ground which they can pick themselves up infinitely on 20 seconds so it makes almost an unfun senario on both sides. Like should the infinite unbreakable have a limit yes it should to. maybe 3 a game if go down that much i feel it is somewhat more one the survivor.
there's no genuine nerf to the flashlights it's just that people who can't be annoying anymore are being crybabies about it
I do think this update permotes slugging but not because of mori I think it's do to the fact that the game ends if everyone is downed I personally never once thought of slugging as a strat but if the game ends if you get everyone then it would be worth doing if of course the Survivors could not pick up quickly
They made tactical slugging harder while making slugging for the 4k easier. Only bhvr
I think the biggest downside to the mori removal is no group selfies with Ghostface
They immediately forgot about myers capability of mori add ons he can literally bypass it by having tombstone
I'm a survivor main and I didn't like the idea of the finisher mori when it was first announced during the anniversary event. It rewards bad gameplay.
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I think first option is the best, Moris are problematic specifically the red one, basically it let's you cut one stage health for every survivor, and no just because someone down you in your last stage health doesn't mean is GG, killer still needs to hook you which in that time you still have hope, maybe there a no close hooks, maybe someone can flashlight save you, sabotage and so on.
Plus we defenetly need something for slugging is not a fun mechanic at all.
When they first announced it I thought I'd like it, because I interpreted the announcement to mean that it would only trigger if there was only one Survivor left in the trial. I didn't realize it would also include Survivors who were slugged. Watching people speed run Trials without really even trying to concerns me as a result and I fear it does promote slugging more than it needs to be. Will the sheer amount of negative opinions being voiced about this one, I think you're right, they should scrap or entirely rework this update. I am thankful that they are using the PTB to truly test concepts, I just hope they then follow through and listen to the players.
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I think they need to leave the Mori, Unbreakable and the flashlights all alone and focus more on the cheaters. I think the Mori in a 1v1 at the end of the game is a good idea… tho I think they implemented this in one of the last updates, did they not? I havent played DBD on PC in about 2 months (due to personal health issues and cheater bullshit) but i have been watching people play on YouTube. I miss playing and hope I can come back soon. Ive been playing a little bit on mobile but not as much as Id like.
the flashlight nerf seems nice for people with epilepsy BUT indoor maps and houses have flickering lights if the gens are not done so not to sure about that one
I absolutely agree these changes are bad. I don’t feel like this idea is flushed out enough and seeing it on he ptb, it just sucked. I understand what they wanted to do but it absolutely failed and these changes do not work with the current state of the game. Moris are fine and tbh? I’d rather get moried than hooked a 3rd time. It’s a fun way to go out. I really hope they scrap this idea. I would probably stop playing, it would get too competitive and completely unfun.
i understand the flashlight thing, and i don't really mind the nerf. i never really used flashlights to begin with. but they should also change the flash you get on screen when you are "blinded" as a killer AND survivor. because i feel like that doesn't help either. some epilepsy is more sensitive than others. as someone below kind of already stated before. with the mori change, they could keep the "finishing mori" but only keep the part where they move you to an open space so you can actually see what it's like. to keep the cinematic feel of it. kind of like what they do with MK when it comes to the finishing move. i haven't played the PTB at all because i know i'll probably just get tunneled out and slugged the whole time, which is something that makes the game boring for me. but i've watched enough gameplay of it to know that it would end up irritating me in the end. i really hope they actually listen to the players as a majority this time and not just the killer side of things because in my honest opinion they are just one step closer to sabotaging their own game.
As far as the basekit unbreakable I think that if they want to add that then that's fine it's one extra thing for survivors whoopty doo maybe this may make them quit complaining about slugging but camping and tunneling is gonna see a rise with it so if that's what BHVR wants to see more complaints of then more power to them. As for the Mori issue I think that they shouldn't have touched anything except the Cypress Mori and just retired that one like they did the Moon Bouquets. I also agree with Aaron to make the Last Standing just be Last Survivor as in everyone else is dead and it's just you and the Killer. This gives survivors a generally more fun experience and it rewards hooks so if a Killer still wants to bring the ebony and Ivory mori's they can be guaranteed to Mori at least 2 survivors a trial and then Devour Hope and Rancor can stay untouched as well.
Hey aaron I havent seen anything on it but did they change the way Michael Myers tombstone works aswell?
Just make the cypress mori base kit. it's that simple. None of this other shit. Mori's are fine as is. They're just a fun way to kill survivors that you had on death hook anyway. What's more fun to kill someone with/get killed by? A: getting put on a meat hook and pulled into the sky by spider legs. B: The killer punching sticking a sword through your throat and ripping out your tongue before beating whats left of you into the ground. I don't know about everyone else, but I'd definitely rather die in a stylish way than just 'PLUNK AAAHH! DEAD'
Your described scenario of a killer tunneling two survivors then failing to mori the last two sounds like what I experience as survivor already on live. So many killers already mimic what they see steamers do in slugging for 4k even if they're bad at it. Nothing changes there.
I hate everything about it. If this goes to the live servers, Unbreakable is going to become meta for solo queue, because no one is coming to get you off the ground any more so might as well get yourself up faster. It does away with so many fun end-game plays. No more crawling to the hatch or exit gate. No more 4% off the hook or surprise Unbreakable. Presumably, if you go down in the exit gate your game is still over, even if you could have crawled a few more feet and escaped – so no more heal tech. And why are we trying to reward/incentivize 4ks even more than they already are? Are killers not sweaty enough for their liking? Now it's the only way to get a mori? Speaking of which, moris are going to lose all novelty and the animation is going to get old real fast.
genuinely think a lot of people would stop playing the game on both sides if this came in
I use the flashlight click to not only troll the killer but to get my brain dead teammates attention to hop on a gen wit me or heal me Video games & Tv screens literally have epilepsy warnings for a reason its called turn down your brightness or not sit so close to the screen or jus don’t play behavior jus ruining the game for a very small percentage
For the mori thing I think they should have just made the green mori basekit and just leave around the other offerings alone. You can still be transported to the final mori thing but you just manually activate it.
I like the attempt to fight against the less fun strategies of tunneling, slugging, and camping. I'm okay with basekit unbreakable, but I think the mori changes are pointless. Everyone knows what a mori is, putting it at the end is just wasting time. And I found the perk moris more fun cause the intensity for someone to be mori'd when it isn't expected is more fun to me. Basekit borrowed time and unbreakable, cool. Don't let exploity pick up builds get in the way and it's fine. I just don't like the last survivor standing mori and game over when the other survivor could get up literally a second after, but just loose instead. They should release base kit unbreakable, do a little perk balancing on unbreakable, and then worry about the Halloween event and the hackers.