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Trying out a build on wraith using the new pop goes the weasel that recently got nerfed. I’m big guilty of calling of this perk dogshit and trashing on it ever since I saw the killer changes in the midchapter, but has anyone actually been testing it to see how it is? Let’s try.
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The problem with pop is not that it is a bad perk on its own. There are just far far far superior choices for regression now. And the argument about "if you get consistent downs" or "as long as you dont go against god survivors" is pretty bad imo. If you get a lot of downs you dont really need any perks lol
5:25 Gen had like 40%, Regression about 8%
6:23 Gen had like 90%, Regression about 18%
7:51 Gen had 40%, Regression about 8%
8:31 Gen had like 80%, Regression about 16%
(2nd game is useless due to the dc)
At the end of the day pop got you roughly 50% of regression in 4 kicks against absolute dogshit survivors in the first match. Comparing this to e.g pain resonance just getting 4 scourge hooks gets you 60% which you definetely could've gotten that match. Already outclassed. This doesn't even take into account how random the value of Pop is.
To match pain res you would have to regress a gen by 15% each kick (which doesn't include the time walking up to a gen). This means the gens need to have 75% progress on average. That's just unrealistic and you probably don't kick a gen every time you hook sometimes. The only argument that makes pain res not 100% consistent is scourge hook spawns but honestly in my experience you almost always get to one. Maybe 1-2 times a match you are too far away to reach one.
I know this video isn't like pain res vs pop but thats just an example of a perk thats way better.
The thing is why run Pop when I can run Pain Resonance for 5% less progress but I don’t even have to kick the gen and it automatically picks the highest progress. And on top of that you cant run DMS on Pop which is an additional 30 of survivors not doing anything.
I love eruption so much now. I run it on every killer.
Pop
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i would say it is no longer a solo carry perk any more which is fine. it does need a bit of help but i think it feels fine.
I ran it for a couple of matches and it's not that it is complete trash, but there are way better alternatives for gen regretion
I feel like oppression doesn't get enough love in these gen kicker builds, it's actually pretty nice. Survivors miss the skill check way more than they do with overcharge. Personally I woulda replaced sloppy (or even pop) with oppression, and then sit on a 3 gen.
I still like Pop. I’d say make it 25% again but keep it based on the progression amount.
Yes it is trash up till around the 80th percentile of the gen and then it is slightly less trash. You are giving current Pop way too much credit.
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeees
You should've let the Dwight live. This is sadgers.
I'd probably use brutal strength instead of sloppy just to double down on the whole kicking stuff playstyle
I REALLY wish this game had post game replays so you could see what players like Feng did all game
Imagine the days when Tofu gets an all P100 survivor lobby. I can't wait, seems like people are rushing towards that goal now. Eruption is probs one of my favorite perks now. Imagine if that the survivor was just hiding in the Bathroom corner by the bodies….
what the hell? did i play againts u or something? yesterday i was playing againts a wraith with your skin who was OK at the game, with the exact same build.. exept addons
Feng getting the hatch and Dwight dying is the bad ending
Good video as always but I personally do not agree with your opinion of Dwight doing all the job just because he is good at looping. Like if the other person just isn't good at looping and it's going to go down in a few seconds should they just wait for that to happen? In my eyes they did even harder job than looping. how much time did you waste by looking for her and the lockers. I bet it was more time than what they would last in a chase. They recognize their weak points and did he best they can within their ability. If the first survivor had stayed in game I would have been a different story. Unfortunately it is a team based game so if someone decides to leave every body else pays the price.
Pop is indeed still a good perk just not as good as before.
I feel bad for saying this tofu because I love what you do but it's not that it's bad but the fact other gen regression perks are superior and more consistent. Your video just proves that pop needs some love because most people look at it and will always think why use this when I can use call of brine or jolt even over charge works more consistently..
Everytime Feng stealthed away from the gen in the bathroom, i kept saying to check the basement. Its most likely the spot they would walk to
kind hate that window jeje
wraith is a killer that can kick gens fast and don't lose distance with addons so let's use 3 gen kicking perks on him then call POP a good perk ???? mmm I don't know man. yes maybe pop is still good on wraith but let's imagine how many chases you are going to lose with so many killers because you just kicked a gen. this video was a good build for wraith but not POP being a good perk. it's like thana, the perks is garbage on every killer except the plague or maybe legion. so let's play plague and call thana a good perk ??? no offense, sorry man but I didn't like this one.
Wraith: I am stealth
This feng: hold my blood points.
I wish they added a secondary effect when they nerfed it, something like it taking 25% longer to repair the damage it dealt. For example if it took off 10 seconds from the gen it would take 12.5 seconds to get that progress back
I WAS THE CHERYL I PLAYED LIKE A BOT LMAO
wouldn't the legion gen build be even stronger now as well?
Pretty much, call of brine is much better, as is eruption.
I did the math but I want my peoples of the internet to double check. I believe Pop Goes The Weasel regresses more than Pain Resonance if the Gen is at 66% progress or more. And it regresses more than Eruption if the Gen is at 50% progress or more.
This doesn't really account for the 2.5% kick getting added to the formula, because I am not 100% sure if 2.5% is automatically added on top of every Pop Goes The Weasel. If it does, then the numbers above get a tiny bit better/lower for Pop Goes The Weasel.
Pop is not a great perk anymore, but it's not bad either. Considering you need to get lucky with a Scourge hook for Pain Res, or go out of your way to kick a Gen before the chase/down with Eruption. Oh, who am I kidding.. Pop is bad now, lol
The 2nd game was almost 20 minutes long WITH an immediate DC… BHVR HAS to do something about stealthing, the survivors can literally hold the killer hostage! It's one of the most boring things you can do in this game and it needs to be fixed!
If you're looking for a fun replacement for Sloppy Butcher in this build, try Dragon's Grip. 🙂 It puts survivors between a rock and a hard place of deciding if they want to stabilize a generator that has Call of Brine but becoming Exposed if they do. And with Wraith's speed he has a better than normal chance of reacting to the scream to try and get the Exposed down, or he can even just kick a gen, slink to the side and stand totally still while Cloaked, and there's a good chance a survivor will come by and touch the gen while he's invisibly watching it. 😄
People tend to overreact due to change. Im guilty of it too.
But pop is deff not bad. Not even close. You just have to actually think about what gen to pop this time around.
There's a mechanic with things like Eruption and Driver's License (from Ghostface) that before the Gen is blocked or Incapacitation starts, there is a tiny split second for the Survivor to work on the Gen again. This is why you can Pop Goes The Weasel on the same Gen right after. It's been like this forever because I even played with old Eruption a lot, which is really nice.
If it's not intended to be like this, then it's dealer's choice. Because then that Gen is regressing and maybe for a long while (like with new Eruption). Pick your poison. 🙂
feng had built in alert
Feng Min is one of those gamers that will lose you a match. While everyone is trying to hustle, they are hiding and not sharing hook stages. Similar to Urban evasion, self care gamers being super careful, while a teammate runs the killer.
It's not even a nerf. When you calculate the total amount of time deducted from the generator, not the %, it actually takes slightly MORE progress than it used to
Pop isn't bad. It still does what it did before, albeit less efficiently, but other perks do it better now.
I feel like as soon as you have to say “as long as the survivors aren’t really good at the game…” your argument about the strength of something is kindaaaaaa nullified
I don’t think it deserved to be overnerfed. Especially since it’s a healthy perk.
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what'd make this build more better is if you use Brutal Strength. Sure, Sloppy Butcher is great for lowering down heals but Brutal Strength would work so well with these two addons
So Pop works well with other synergistic perks, but how does it hold up on its own?
i don't really get why bhvr nerfed pop. it is and will remain trash in my opinion and i like to run the other perks. 5 % less regression or cutting the time being able to kick a gen from 60 to 45 secs might not be a huge nerf to bhvr, but 20 % of nothing is still nothing. sure if the gen is almost done you get huge value, but good survivors will just stick to the gen and finish it in your face. eruption and call of brine have given me much more value than pop has. i don't really get why pop had to be hit by such a huge nerf.
tis worse than on its release, when it was an absolute trash. on release it had 25%, not its 20, just 60 sec instead of 30-45
I can't look at wraith anymore after the date sim thingy… watching streamers play that game gave me headache
So oh so call of brine stacks with eruption and pop? didnt know that
Can I use this build to the same effectiveness on legion?
Yes