New Stats Prove Skill Matters (Trigger Warning) – Dead by Daylight



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DBD just shared stats of top mmr kill rates for all killers. Better get your mental gymnastics shorts on.

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42 thoughts on “New Stats Prove Skill Matters (Trigger Warning) – Dead by Daylight”

  1. ACTUALLY CHOY all this proves is that the top 5% of survivors are trash. If BHVR cared about good data they would share the stats of the top 0000000.1% of MMR.

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  2. Eh, the problem with those top 5% stats is it doesnt speak to who the killer is playing against. Id rather see the kill rates for killers in the top 5% when theyre facing top 5% survivors. Show me that number. I win like 75% of my games, i doubt im in the top 5% of killers and i KNOW most of those won games arent against the top 5% of survivors (thats the 25% i lose 😂)

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  3. they need to give pick rates along with the kill/Hook rates. For example nobody plays Twins and Sadako except for OnePumpWillie and Lynxi. so these are basically their statistics lmao.

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  4. Well, goodbye Wesker, plague, dredge, oni, Sadako, blight, nurse, pig, wrists and twins.
    You all have 60% kill rates which instantly means your op in the eyes of BHVR

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  5. Something things that I just really feel like are ignored by this information:
    ~ In a match of DbD there is a lot of nuance with maps, RNG, etc.
    ~ Nurse and Blight, despite being the best killers in the game, do not have the highest killrates at top MMR.
    ~ Wesker, Plague, and Dredge are far from the best killers in the game other than maybe Plague since she top tier given the right build. Dredge is very mediocre and carried by addons; and Wesker is also kind of just mediocre but at least their basekit can stand on it's own and addons are really good.
    ~ This is ignoring the elephant in the room, which I have stated this before, top MMR is a LOT more casual than people make it out to be in most cases, a majority of the top tier players for survivor and killer play comp, which means most of them are in custom matches which do not influence killrates.
    ~ Killrates all are below 75% which leaves room for matches in which 1 person DCs and the killers gets a 3K.

    What does this information mean to me:
    ~ Too much nuance, I will say this for the Nth time, the game is not killer sided, nor is it survivor sided, there is too much going on to pinpoint anything.

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  6. comparing killers' strength based on this statistic assumes that all of the killer players mastered the killer theyre playing. blight, for example, is definitely the second strongest killer in the game, but is one of the most difficult killers in the game to actually play extremely well. it makes total sense that wesker is at the top in this stat, because wesker is both pretty strong AND relatively easy to play well.

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  7. How am I supposed to find a soloQ survivor every time I play as a killer I always find a team of 4 with the team name or something that match each other name It's quite hard to play even on dirt rank

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  8. Freddy is up there because a good player can abuse the fuck out of is insane reach. He can mindgame loops so much easier then every other killer. Yes his power sucks, but his insane extra lunge is deadly. Finally though, I can point to this while doing my adept Bubba. "Oh he's so easy lmao" say the survivor mains, after they dropped 10 of the seemingly endless palettes and connected windows plus Dead Hard for 5 gens. Do you know how fucking hard it is as Bubba to left click a survivor 3 times? There's a reason I haven't seen a Bubba player since BT update, he was only ever good for facecamping

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  9. I think Wesker is #1 because he is new and not only does everyone want to play him and get better with him, but also because he is new, not everyone knows how to deal with him yet. I am sure after a little while, Wesker's kill rate will drop once survivors get used to him.

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  10. Is it just me or should we not count add ons? Dont get me wrong, they're a part of the game a HUGE majority of players always run add ons. I do too. However, they just change so much on what a killer is capable of dealing with. A Sadako with iri tape and that healing addon is so much more effective in high MMR than basekit Sadako at high MMR. Not to mention, she completely ignore hooks and still get 2Ks. I also think pick rates are important cause I dont think there's THAT many Sadako players at high MMR compared to Nurse. Especially ones that are performing that well consistently. This doesnt really change my perspective on the game or playerbase. I just think there's a lot of holes in this for both sides to cherry pick on. Doesn't really tell us much. Is it really skill if most Wraiths just run NOED, tunnel, and run Iri add-ons? It doesnt count DCs, but how many players are just throwing the game? Etc. This is Top 5% so it's a reasonably good margine to assume that rookie mistakes dont happen often, and things like AFK or baby killers arent seen. But there's still things to take note of.

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  11. Part of what I think is that the weaker and less popular killers being much higher up then they 'should' be given you know Nurse and Blight exist, is that the people who really like those killers and actually stick with them at high mmr, are likely very very good with them. Where as a lot of people know hey, Nurse is OP as hell, I should play nurse and proceed to not do very well with em.

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  12. @Choy Dont forget its only Kills in the 5% not how many games with that killer. When 1 Sadako main is pro with that killer he will kill most player. Same with Plague. But Nurse and Blight have many more games so more likely more bad player.

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