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According to kill rates posted by BHVR, it seems as though we have a new S tier killer in the mix. Sadako/Onryo seems to have a crazy high killrate across all MMRs, and even remains high in the top 5% MMR stats too. So we test her out a bit and see what all the hype is about.
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Feel like people have been sleeping on sadako and dredge since release. They act like their garbage because they aren't the most oppressive killers in chase without recognizing the value of being able to teleport almost anywhere on the map in seconds mixed with stealth and perks makes for very deadly killers to experienced players.
I heard you say you've been playing some MTG lately.. video or nah? 😆
For real, I'd like to see you stream or give us some MTG content.
Rather than Sloppy Butcher, this build is much better served by info perks like Discordance or Surveillance. Knowing where to teleport to for sure is very helpful on this. BBQ is also good.
Full info builds can reap results very fast. BBQ/Floods of Rage, Lethal Pursuer, Bitter Murmur, Discordance. You pretty much always know where to teleport to to give people stacks.
And when you can do it that quickly, you can usually do it before they can effectively do gens. If they care about their condemned you create enough slow down by having them constantly chase down video tapes, so Overbrine isn't as necessary here as you might think it is unless you're using Brine for info.
onryo sucks ass but i still play her. Without sloppy butcher shes unplayable.
Lol
I love playing her. Last match I got midwich and killed all of them with 0 hook because of condempt. Just play her with hit and run and gen slowdown
the only people still playing onryo are the 3 onetricks who are left. she just doesnt have trash players wasting time on her and bringing her kr down
How are you complaining so much about survivors DCing without coming to the conclusion that it's because of a reason other than, "baby bitch players."🤷♂ Also, you're complaining about it as killer. imagine being their team mate……
personally I love having STBFL instead of sloppy, being able to confirm condemn kills saves your ass alot lol
"Everyone thought Onryo was bad…"
I have been saying for MONTHS that Sadako is SLEPT ON!
Onryo is a decent killer and it's B- tier.
Change my mind.
Literally if I find someone game throwing, Im not hooking them and getting them out of the game faster so they can pull this stuff in another game. Im knocking them down, and watching them bleed out. They can DC and take the penalty if they want
Hey Tofu, I was intending to use this Condemned+hooks strategy in your Scrims when it's my turn!
I don't why many streamers underrate Onryo. She's like a Pig who can basekit unlock a tombstone piece AND teleport
I'm actually an Onryo main (well in recent times I've become more of a Wesker main but I really love to play her)
S-Tier = Sadako-Tier
I go against this a lot the counter is just get rid of your condemned the second you get two slots
I don't stop playing cause a killer does good I stop cause I see my team doing dog shit .
Thank you! The amount of baby rage at the start of a match is super annoying
Onryo is very good if you play stealthy and teleport quickly to gens. You want to keep pressure on the survivors so they heal less and try to work on gens, become condemned, and then everything falls apart as they panic. Even just getting one survivor to become condemned is enough to make the team fall apart.
Ugly
Isn't sloppy a bad perk if you want people to heal and spread condemn? Feel like a better perk would be a info or vision perk to land condemns like nurses or I'm all ears etc
Call me a noob, but it seems like if you can figure out an Onryo is using Ring Drawing addon or playing like they have it, you should just do tapes starting at 3 stacks to reduce yourself to 0 and keep it that way. Healing with stacks just gets you killed.
Not sure if many people know about this tip on Sadako, but once you learn this little trick, you will have information almost the entire game.
So, here it is:
When you teleport to a tv, if a survivor hasn’t gained any condemned, they will gain a ring around their icon (obviously). This tell you that there is a survivor nearby.
However, if you pay very close attention to the ring, when you teleport to a tv that has a survivor in the range and that survivor is already condemned, the ring will glow a little bit, showing that a survivor is nearby and gained another stack of condemned.
It’s a little difficult to see at first, but if you pay very close attention whenever Tofu teleports and a survivor is near the tv, you will see the ring glow a little. And if there is no glow around the ring, then you know there is no survivor nearby and to not waste time in that area.
I’ve played Sadako many times, and I’ve noticed this throughout my times of playing her and can confirm that it is true.
2:35 is an example of the Bill gaining a stack of condemned and the ring glowing a little. If you look carefully, you will see it.
So its actually not the furthest Tv unless you have the tape editing deck addon. its description is "Each Survivor starts the trial with a Tape in their possession, and their target TV is the furthest from their location." -Tape Editing Deck Description. This means that if two tvs are close they could literally walk like 20 meters to their TV
23:18 i just really wanna know what was their strategy there.
I really hate to be that guy, but if you allow me, here is my opinion so hopefully it can be helpful for your future games. This moment is crucial: 18:18 and I think at you made a wrong desition. Because Feng and Nea were about to be cursed. If you decided to teleport to all the TVs in the map trying to find them you would have got them. But instead you chased Kate, and while doing it, the girls returned the tapes and all your progress went down the drain. But in the end you crushed them all because Onryo is too scary S tier killer. GGS!
When they have a tape they have horizontal static on their pfp. As their condemn increases regular static increases in frequency on their pfp.
And you're right it supposed to be the furthest most TV from where they grabbed it but it's not an exact science since the maps are irregular in shape & size.
Yeah Control Sadako is a thing
10:22 Yes.
“average sadako kills 3 survivors per game" factoid actualy just statistical error. average sadako kills zero survivors per game. OnePumpWillie, who lives in a well & gets over 10,000 sadako kills each day, is an outlier adn should not have been counted
I really hate it when they combine all MMR levels and represent the data in one simple category. Idk in other area, but in Asia server, there are shit tons of afk killers at low MMR grinding BP and de-ranking, and most of them are Doctor.
BHVR do like to oversimplify data, like they choose to ignore add-on and perks when designing MMR
@ohtofu
I think it is only sadakos purple addon to make survivors start with a tape, that explicitly says that you will have to run to the farthest TV, but it is not basekit
As an onryo main, its true most people are just afking and its sad