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Quite a few people had asked about the nerf, and a few others were attempting to break down the math of having 5 boxes, even if the maximum searches would only ever be 4. Thoughts? I think this should've just been a Video Tape nerf.
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Logically doesn't make sense I know it's unlikely for you to have to search all 5 but it's logically Impossible for it to never in the 5th box
I hate that pig power is rng like rng shouldnt even be a thing in dbd
Bruh… I'm gonna complain to the forums about this. These devs are so stupid. I don't want another box to patrol if I need to find an especific player for whatever reason.
Dowsey was calling this a buff because of the percentages changing from 25/33/50/100 to 20/25/33/100, but the percentages aren't what kills people. The map sizes have more to do with it, and if the killer is in the area of the box that you need to search. Now the boxes won't be as spread out as before and if the killer is near one then you can just go to the other one. It's definitely a nerf imo. Cause I mean really I don't think I've ever died to a trap just because I had to search all 4 boxes. It's always been because I had to avoid the killer and go to another box on a large map. Now there is less chance to run into the killer while trying to remove a trap
Thankfully i dont main pig this is so unfortunate
ITS NOT A NERF
1 more box means less chance of finding the key earlier then the 4th one. Its 20% for finding it in first search. 25 in second. 33 in 3rd. Then 4th you find the key like before. More boxes equals less likely to find the key.
In general recently BHVR was making okayish changes . Also, new killer made me kind of want to go back to dbd. But when i quit it i made myself a promise. No matter what they do, im not coming back untill they buff the pig, even a little. And now i see this shit.
Honestly, I think the rng of Pig should just go either entirely or mostly gone because it makes both playing against and as her frustrating. Make it so that the first box searched doesn't remove the trap and you can use add ons to increase this up to four required searches. That way, you are guaranteeing some value from your traps.
The Pig is a character that lacks mobility, doesn't have the best chase potential, and doesn't have much to counter loops. She depends heavily on perks and rng on her slow down to make her work as a killer. And that's frankly not fun depending on rng because sometimes you can get amazing value from your traps and survivors have to search all the boxes. Or no value because they get it off first try.
I’ll come back to this game when Behavior decides to take it seriously then
Cant they just make survivors unable to search jigsaw boxes UNTIL they’re activated? Ya know, when the “game” “BEGINS”??
Omg the need pig meme became real are u srs
I saw a comment saying add a extra jigsaw box to that add on…. LITERALLY that's the best way to have dealt w this urgh
Stupid fecking nerf
if anything pig needed a buff r a rework cuz the traps are easy to get off in the first place. Also all the survivor mains (because I always see them bitching on fb when a killer gets buffed) can stfu 
Nobody:
Devs: We need to nerf one of the weakest killers!
That sucks, they nerf abysmal killers like pig, but buff killers like nurse. This is the incompetence I am talking about
Although we have been nerfed, my will does not falter!
I see the nerf pig meme alive and well after all this time
why do i get the feeling that someone who lost against you got upset and told his uncle at BHVR, ridiculous that this could be true
I understand the points you're making and they're valid ones. Personally I don't mind this, what bothers me is that they nerfed an already weak killer yet again instead of maybe giving her a few buffs. She's the most nerfed killer in the game's history and undeserved most of the time, since she was never a top tier or even a mid tier killer to begin with. It's great that they are getting rid of AFK Pig, which is such a boring and lazy way to play, but in doing so they gave her yet another nerf even if it is a slight one
Pig power is a joke, you can use it a limited number of times and can be removed quickly. Pig needs a rework. Look I put a hat on you as pig and now they are 99 gens while you search box's then you remove the box and Bam 3 gens pop off.
There were so many different ways to apply that band-aid, and they picked the absolute worst way to do it.
But at least David King is gay
Why didn't they just make it so the Video Tape addon adds an extra box, and the maximum 4 search thing.
Why nerf the entire Pig basekit because 1 addon is being exploited
These devs are such fucking morons its baffling
Silly thing is, if they really want you to die, they just follow you with Amanda's letter and stop you from doing the box. This change nerfs legit Pig and doesn't solve the issue.
No this is a buff. They have less way go walk, but the chance of getting the key is reduces (1/5, 2/5 instead of 1/4 and 2/4). Which means the, propably need more often 2+ boxes instead of 1 like at the moment (20% chance on box 1 instead of 25%)
Allí the survs of the world use dead hard, DS, and BT…. But I dont ear nothing about these tactic………
Why didn’t they just nerf the red video tape addon to add an additional box and then the current nerf now as a negative to that addon not nerf pig as a whole she already weak
Damn I thought for sure we were going to be discussing portable bathrooms… Seems like a very minor nerf, but a nerf none the less. You can still pressure them off the box while avoiding chase so they lose time, running to another box further away. Overall I think the bigger nerf is now that there is more boxes the time it takes to search at most 4 boxes will be on average lower since you can assume the path to get to 4 boxes will be shorter with another box on the map.
my friends and i went against a pig who did this, camped infront of a jigzaw box to get first kill and then tunneled everyone else
It’s been awhile since we had a pig nerf,
In saw it was always the survivors figuring out the puzzles not Amanda, so technically it ain't in the spirit of jigsaw for the killer to figure it out
and lort knows camping is always ez clap win, doesn't matter what you camp, and that's always a I don't have to play to win strat that needs to be fixed, I'm glad they started with the pig, now they need to fix the hooks 
All they had to do was "Traps will always come out on the third box". This alone would fix so many things…
they really nerfing pig
Seems odd they would focus specifically on camping Pigs. Not saying it isn't a shitty and boring way to waste your time/play, but any killer can still camp a hook to their hearts' content. If one is an unacceptable strategy, why is the other not? Devs need to be consistent.
He’s making a big deal out of this
First it’s RNG based they could get it first try or they have to search all 4 so the info that he is talking about didn’t exist or rarely ever happens and when it does happen which is almost never and you detect it again hardly ever you get a kill wow like NOED doesn’t do that already
BHVR balancing is so STUPID. Instead of nerfing the add-on, they nerf an already weak killer's base kit. At the same time, instead of nerfing CoH fairly, they add yet another fucking add-on instead of nerfing its base.
The people behind balancing this game are straight up morons.
I feel like afk pig didn't need to be nerfed. It is unfair, for sure, but it is random chance. You rarely get more than 1 kill with it.
The traps will come off faster now as well because with more boxes on the map the distance between boxes is lower.
1.) I think AFK Pig was a crappy way to play Piggy… BUT it is lore-accurate to Amanda: Making the Games impossible to win.
2.) Why can't we finally get a Piggy buff? Like it's nerf after nerf for her… Like make Ambushes insta-down survivors or something. Make it more rewarding than treating it as a regular hit. And it would be cool if they gave her new chase music as well. Someone suggested to me that they could make a remix of the "Hello Zepp" theme, which would be sick.
Maybe I am being "that guy", but like, isn't the concept of figuring boxes out still applies? Like, okay, you have one more box to bother, so if you know that survivor A searched 3 boxes, you know that it is in your best interest at this point to control 2 boxes instead of one, and, giving the fact that survivors are rotation through boxes instead of zig-zaging the map, since it would cost more time, you are always safe to assume that the last 2 boxes for survivor A are on a chain to each other, so instead of camping 1 box making it impossible for said survivor, your task switches into patrolling 2 boxes (and maybe a gen or a hook inbetween) to ensure that said survivor can't go undo his trap freely, but with teamplay such as distractions and pressuring gens, they might slip by. And, blasphemous take incoming, that is FINE. As much as it is indeed a matter of applying more effort to reach the outcome of getting a trap kill, I don't think that it's unreasonable. After all, main application of the boxes and traps is to have a slowdon tool to make survivors go off gens, so that you have time to score hooks.
And the reason they add one more box in base kit is because you can do camp strat without iri add-on, and that's equally unhealthy. The problem is not that you can't capitalize on knowledge of searched boxes, because you still can, but with more input than just staying in front of a last box. The problem is, if it so happens that you capitalize on that knowledge in current state, survivor has NO counterplay whatsoever, because they can't push you aside, can't dead hard you to search the box, can't get the hatch in time, because chanses are, they don't have a key, and they are not the last survivor remaining, because you would not camp a box in this case, you would look for a hatch, they can't leave through the exit gates, and thus said survivor might as well just go afk and drink a cup of tea, since there is literally NO OUTPUT that they can make to differ, and THAT STATE of the game is unhealthy.
In conclusion: if the nerf was applied to the Tape only, you would still be able to utilize afk strat sometimes, which is not okay. Camping basement with Bubba is okay gameplay-vise, because You have to be actively ready to chainsaw survivor that comes for the rescue, thus, you are engaged in the game. Pig strat is literally AFK, because you can sit in front of the box and LEAVE THE ROOM, and I am sure that's not the intended way of playing the game.
Unrelated to the video, but what would your choice perks be for pig. Or are they still the same from the pig guide you did?
Pig is overpowered so…
We should camp near 2 boxes now
Bruh.. as a Pig main myself, this was just totally unnecessary and undeserved- yes it’s lazy and boring to play as AFK Pig but they should’ve at least made it a Video Tape nerf rather than it being general… she’s already so weak.
They should just make it like pyramid head where if you are close to the cage it changes location
Was this almo's idea?
this sucks. Her battlepass cosmetic made me loive playing Pig and it's hard enough as is when facing experienced players.
Hot take: Remove afk pig and buff her by increasing the max box searches from 4 to 5. Add another box, search another box. Ez fix and she could use the buff. Odds are you probably won't have to search all 5 anyways.