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How SBMM / MMR Changed Dead By Daylight Forever
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Intro
0:37 – What Is SBMM / MMR?
2:04 – Confusion With Ranks / Grades
2:35 – FlexiSpot Sponsor
3:51 – SBMM In Depth Matchmaking
7:10 – Pros of SBMM
7:50 – Issues with SBMM
10:10 – DBD Casual vs Competitive
14:15 – Playerbase Since SBMM Was Introduced
15:19 – How To Fix SBMM / MMR
18:10 – Final Thoughts
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I miss pre mmr 😢
I feel like now I’m matched with a bunch of newbies…nothing wrong with that but it is when you are trying to actually do all gens, yet all the survivors are too scared to do anything, I’ve had this game for 3 yrs now but I feel like as of late it’s a sucky system doesn’t put me with survivors of my skill level
i hate mmr/ i wish it would go back to rank. been asking for years
Honestly I want the player cards to show your dedication to the game instead of being just another cosmetic like the crappy brown charms. Like showing milestones, showing you played this amount of hours or this amount of hours.
And of the SBMM, its not going anywhere. It is in every main stream game. No matter how many thousands of people talk about removing it, it'll always be here. They have it in the gaming industry nowadays because they know that if you dominate one game, lose bad next game.. they know your gonna wanna keep playing to get better.
What does suck is when I paired with less experienced survivors when I play more survivor, but then killer I get P100s. I feel like it should be the opposite since I'm the one doing all the gens and distraction for my team
The only thing for me with sbmm is the fact that there isn't clear and cut ways to ranking. as it stands now you can literally do nothing but hide in lockers and so long as your team does all the gens and you escape you get your mmr raised. if there was the fact that you looped the killer for 52 gens and saved everyone off the hook while doing all 500 gens in the match and you died but still ranked up due to actually doing things, i would say it would be a nice addition. The only downside for me is i don't want to sweat every single day because mmr forces me to. there are days where i want to just meme on a killer with addons and perks while also not having to face the 65th nurse of the day while also having days where i can if i want to sweat and show my skill. thats why personally i wish there was 2 options of queues where you either que comp or you que normals but that won't happen
Thought 3000 was the mmr cap
This is my experience as killer with sbmm. I win a few games in a row and get 4ks. Then lose a few games in a row and only get one or two kills or none at all.
It's a roller-coaster ride that just sucks.
Idk, I can’t tell. Before the “mmr changes” sometimes I’d get fairly new players with default skins and low prestige. That still has happened recently, mind that I’ve been playing since the Silent Hill Chapter. Also personally, DBD is a party casual game for me, but of course people will try and play competitive because they can. At the cost of being joke because DBD isn’t balanced enough to even be considered competitive. You win some you lose some, get over it and go touch grass. Lol
We need 2 v 8
A split in casual and ranked is exactly what this game needs
There's just no scenario where SBMM is a good thing… I wish they'd realise this and remove it 🙁 Sweaty games are fun, but now when they happen every single round
I feel like I'm in the minority that actually likes sbmm
I'd rather have 5 games where I get 2-3 kills than 2 games where I steamrolled followed by 3 games where I get steamrolled
Honestly I am surprised this is even still an issue. Old multiplayer games back in 2008 had this issue solved,so how DBD still doesn't have a balance between sweaty/serious players and casual players for matchmaking
Personally the SBMM is trash in my opinion. Think it needs a ton of work. It is not accurate or working as intended
Good breakdown dude! I love to see BHVR show the true real things behind MMR. Also if they will show what your MMR is and or if that is a good thing or not. But ya MMR was the biggest turning point to how people played this game.
Just remove the mmr since they stopped with their orginal so much went downhill and got more boring and im so tired to to get a random surv 50 h or a killer 500 h while I got 4k h and complains in end game chat like ye its the devs fault u shouldnt end up with someone with 4k h
A casual mode and ranked mode would be great. I just never cared for rank and I’m not interested in sweating every match. I just want to have a little fun win or lose.
casual game, sbmm not needed. Made the game worse. People whining about getting bodied made this happen as well as the people that purposely lost their games to play against new players so they could win for free also caused this. If this game wants to be competitive all the killers need to be equal in power to the Huntress. Not any stronger not any weaker and Nurse needs to be nerfed more or reworked with a totally new power. She's never going to be fair and fun to play because its either cheese for survivors or too hard and not fun for a killer player. Iri addons need to go away and bnp prob also needs to go even though its way nerfed compared to what it was its still something that might need to just go away for the sake of balance.
A ranked mode would be dead. People who say they don't want to "sweat" actually just mean that they want to win without having to try. I have literally never seen even a single person say they want this game to be an e-sport, not even the people who do play it as an e-sport. Just people complaining because they don't get free wins. They'll all go into casual and ranked will be a barren wasteland. The player spike in 2021 was due to Resident Evil, and the falloff was due to Resident Evil fans who didn't click with the game dropping off.
Can’t they just do mmr based on Chase time/objectives?
If we can see this mmr numbers i would love to see content creator watching 100 mmr match and all of em is solo. Imagine the chaos that would happen.
Smh SBMM is basically a hr/Kill or product of skills based thing ( Well it was in sports games EA 2K AND LETS NOT FOTGET COD AND OTHER FPS GAME). SOOOOOO basically it forces good players to play good players newbies to play newbies…. back in the beginning Xmas and new years was noob day cus new players got the games on sale or due to Xmas… this resulted in a lot of players ending the experience early or not being a part of the pay system… NEW PLAYERS SPEND MORE MONEY THEN OLD PLAYERS WHY??? cus once you're so good you get in game currency faster than new players and casual. Why you ask??? Cus you win more this was an issue, so now MMR OR SBMM basically helps new players get hooked so they start spending money/ become a part of the pay system 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
SORRY TO SUM IT UP THEY WANNA CREATE A BALANCE LONG ENOUGH TO GET MONEY THATS ALL
I still get potato randoms
Just give us a ranked mode and a casual mode and don't tell me the que times would be too bad, I'd rather wait a few more minutes to get in a game if it means I'm practically guranteed to find a match that I'd enjoy the most
Took a break from killer, got on to play a single match, got one of the sweatiest teams I've ever faced. Haven't played since, the constant sweat is just draining
I wish theyd show us our mmr
Yesterday I looped a killer for 4 gens and the killer got more points than me it's a little unfair.
They really oughta to just setup two different Match Modes like king said: 1. Casual Mode & 2. Ranked Mode. That way you have one for casuals that gives low rewards but allows freedom to play in a a relaxed way and allow devs to implement casual buffs and nerfs to everything. While Ranked mode removes the casual nerfs and buffs to allow a more hardcore playstyle and implementing a high risk high reward system.
That average number of players is on Steam, right? Because the game was released on more platforms since then (Epic Games, Switch, PS5, Xbox X/S…)
I stopped olaying the game over a year ago bcuz of sbmm. I grew to HATE the game
I recently came back to dbd because of the Alien chapter, and was enjoying my matches being not to sweaty but good, no much gen regress needed, survivors always were a little good and a nice challenge, and nice spooky fun. But until the recent mmr changes either I 4k every game or everyone goes out, I don't care about winning, but games don't really seem fun anymore u.u
7:02 Pretty sure there’s no 3rd level for people in 5k MMR? There is a soft cap that they change alot but i believe they can’t implement the 3rd level as the queues would just be too long. They look for people of your mmr then stretch out the ranges the longer the queue