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I may be wrong, but I believe killer mains tend to be much kinder towards baby survivors in comparison to survivor mains towards baby killers.
I've played killer myself and have let a few teams go when I realized how hard of a time they were having against me. When I play survivor, I've also encountered friendly killers here and there. However, do survivors tend to do the same? On a rare occasion, yes, as in letting you kill them when you haven't gotten anyone the entire match. But killers being nicer than survivors tends to happen more often.
Ben you are full of it. You do rage bait, look at the vast majority of your channel content – you downplaying your scummy play style won’t change what’s obvious.
And you say “have more compassion” for each other; yet upload nothing but salt videos. Hypocritical nonsense; at least Wolfe owns his terrible gameplay, he makes it funny/entertaining. You whining trying to justify; while asking people to be nice to each other (and you still post salt videos) is cringe. 🙄🙄🤡🤡
Noobs say shit like that–>Their favorite content creators, often times with millions of subs and thousands of hours assert their dumb complaints regardless of validity–>Positive reinforcement, they assume it's correct and keep doing it–>Others see people doing this and join in themselves
That's all there is to it. Thing is, pandora's box has been opened already and there's no closing it, even if big creators on youtube turned around and were more honest about the game and how it works. Too many people actually believe garbage like "tunneling is toxic" or "trash killers tunnel" and have been encouraged, rather than admonished, to continue this toxic behavior toward killers because they've been pandered to and told by all their favorite creators their complaints, no matter how ridiculous, are actually correct and that things like tunneling actually are toxic and comparable to trolling.
So, if creators did turn around one day and start telling the truth, it would be like when the hyenas eat scar at the end of The Lion King, the monster they created would turn on them
ow, if they were honest to begin with, this wouldn't be an issue, especially ones I won't name with thousands of hours that have direct experience with how the game works when people are actually good at it and understand it. Those people saying shit like "trash tunneler!!!" and "toxic killer kys!!!" etc would be seen as a vocal minority and be generally admonished, instead of becoming a majority of the playerbase like they are now, but of course we can't have nice things
2:04 you forgot to mention how OP Chucky is THE S TIER problematic killer, who is 110 without any ranged attacks, gives wall hacks in chases and had a fairly long cooldown wasn't even strong to begin with
on the other hand Blight, Blight got completely gutted now, I am a blight main who has been playing for years, i have played in tournaments (as both killer and survivor), as i can confirm that Blight's hug tech wasn't the problem, it was his addons, BHVR instead of fixing the addon they made it more broken as they don't know to make good killer addons anymore. I stopped playing him entirely as i realized how much he sucks without it, obviously some can still make him viable with bump logic but I don't care as the loop are RNG! any killer which relies on RNG is a terrible killer. they reverted Billy back to his self and gave him over tune but now i keep over flicking and don't forget map rng again. Survivors complain about spirit when all they have to do listen to the audio que and camp a pallet, you will realize just how weak she is. Nemesis rn is better than Wesker, that how much nerfs Wesker has been getting (nemesis's tenticle got a buff that's it)
the newer killers like Alien is hot dodo because you can spam turrets near loops and gens basically deny the killer his power, Singularity is good (what im currently main-ing), one emp and my cam is down for 45 secs or half a gen! Vecna is nice by design but he's basically cooldown sim (even if you manage your cooldowns, the chests can completely f you over in chases due to some OP survivor items again RNG)
worst is when they nerfed Bubba and they called it a "buff", they increased his speed and decreased his range and said "improved collision", now even the sweep i must respect pallets even if its poorly times and cant even punish terrible head-ons.
last but not least killer perks ARE A JOKE rn, i never expected the day where i would only really use stuff like – brutal str/enduring/no way out/lightborne/pain res (yes the one perk which only gives 4 uses and requires scourge hook) or some variation of this
Some players can't literally handle when they lose. I didn't slug and tunnel and one person tried to insult me. But It's funny to me, I trolled this guy. I am a Huntress main and for players is better when you don't use gen. slow down perks. Someone came on my stream and he said: "You was good and it was fun match. You didn't use any slow down perks" I didn't even have 5 hooks…
The reason of toxicity is simple. Survivor side is boring. Objectively. The real gameplay is to loop killers, but killers probably will avoid you. So, in order to provoke them and antagonize them in survivors' side survivors become toxic. And for that, killers respond with toxic behaviour as well, including on non-toxic survivors. Which respond with being toxic against non-toxic killers, which in response… you get the idea. And the tribalism when you do not understand other side's feelings because of how drastically you are different.
I think that all this hatred towards players playing the killer comes from the belief "Us versus him" WE, the team, have to defeat the bad guy who stands in our way to win, so it's possible that many toxic people consider this game to be more than just a game, they need to show that they are better than someone else, or that their failure is humiliating. Third option I think is to blame another player for your own mistake, oh my loop lasted 3 seconds? it's because of this stupid killer perk, not my bad play, it's always someone else's fault than his. I've been playing DBD with my fiancé for some time now, and when he doesn't have time I play as a killer, the game itself means a lot to me and I've been playing it for years, so being toxic is the last thing I'm going to do, I've already been punched in the face with words that could hurt, luckily I don't take them seriously, but how many people with mental problems can suffer from this? sometimes you should think about how you treat other people.
killer is the hardest its ever been and they still want us nerfed and be hostile and toxic
I agree with what you’re saying but I think it’s more of a community issue and not mainly a survivor issue. I streamed killer for like 6 hours yesterday and got my butt kicked once with demo on auto haven. It was most likely a SWF running head on but those guys were good overall and I gave them props. The point I’m trying to make is people play every match like 10 grand is on the line and if they think if they lose once, they’re terrible at the game. Have fun people and have a little empathy. Another person is behind the screen trying to have fun like you are. Don’t take it too seriously. And if people get angry in end game chat, shrug it off. They’re just upset and will forget about it in the next 20 mins ❤
Once i got flamed by a surve cause i waited for deadhard. He called me cringe 😂
I don't appreciate that you are taking all the salty players for yourself. Save some for the rest of us Ben.
Don't you dare ask GBB why he is tunneling. Might as well ask why do you eat food?
Survivors don't like to lose, killer is harder than survivor end of story, that's why most of them don't play it. So whatever they lose it's got to be someone else's fault. Otherwise it might be a skill issue. Or if that ridiculous tech that they found on YouTube didn't work. Somehow the killer must be cheating because it worked when the streamer did it…
Well you do an ironically tunnel and camp every game. Map offering or not.
If killers stop playing the game then bhvr would need to make changes for killer players after ques become 1hour+
I personally don't tunnel or camp but I wouldn't go into endgame chat and be rude and disrespectful to the killer for doing it. I understand being upset for being tunneled and or camped, it happens to me all the time playing solo q but if console had chat I STILL wouldn't bad mouth the killer. Just say GG regardless of how the game went and go to the next game. I've said this in other DBD content creator posts that I don't like slugging, etc but at the end of the day its part of the game. Behavior even says themselves that doing these things isn't a reportable offense. So its hilarious when people say "I'M REPORTING YOU FOR TUNNELEING, ETC!!!" Just…please fellow survivor players learn to say GG and move on. Being a jerk to the killer does absolutely nothing but show how immature you are. Treat others how you want to be treated. And before someone comments something like "well the killer treated me badly in the game so they have it coming" just don't. I'm not going to argue with people over a silly party style game.
I started out as killer. At low MMR learning the game and having a blast. Fast forward to sweaty games. Playing killer gave me anxiety and actually made me angry. I never went back.
As much as I wanted to get a new PC since it basically died to full RAM, I’m kinda glad it died so I don’t have to deal with the toxicity in DbD.
I really liked the game, but wished there’s an alternative.
Killers objective let survivors hit them with pallets don't regress gens don't hook other survivors let survivors escape
Don't forget buckle up and for the people
I am killer main, and I play survivor sometimes. Survivor players are toxic to the killers and their own teammates. I had someone leave me on hook to die on endgame because I was the only teammate who didn’t get hooked because the killer kept leaving chase against me. Like they are so garbage at the game that they will blame the killers or the teammate who is trying to help.
Ill never understand the survivors who say things like “your supposed to let the survivors win so everyone can have fun” or “the survivors are at worse disadvantage than the killer”
In my opinion survivors have it better than the killer and all it tells me is that a person isn’t too good at the game or needs to chill and play casually.
My theory: In real life, killing someone is bad. Psychologically, although this is just a game, the concept of someone trying to kill is bad. Sadly, people can't divorce the fact DBD is just a game from reality. Consequently, for many DBD players who only play survivor, anyone who plays killer will be pilloried regardless of how they play – whether they play 'fairly' by survivor rules, or tunnel, camp, and slug. It makes no difference.
I might be a bit biased here as I mainly play killer, but I play survivor too and I can think of maybe one of two matches where I felt genuinely upset or frustrated with what the killer did. Compared to my matches as killer where at least more than half of the games I play just makes me feel frustrated, sometimes even if I win. Whether it be swf's, bully squads, tbaggers, people who hide the entire match, post chat insults and just general toxicity it's always something, they just can't help themselves and the higher your MMR is, the worse it gets.
Honestly don't understand why people have to go out of their way to try and instigate hostility and foster a community like this
Just yesterday i played few matches as pig, 2 out of 3 games ended up with toxicity from survivors. I was called names, i got comments in my steam profile, all of that is because i dared to kill survivors and not be their entertainment.
What is the really funny, is that in those games i was the toxic one in their opinion. Survivors from first match said that because i tunneled one person and got a fast kill (i got a fast kill because they unhooked person almost right in my face, so i still dont understand why they are surprised that i tunneled the person), i 'ruined their fun' and i shouldnt play like that. In second match i dared to slug one person for a minute, and i recieved another portion of insults.
What im trying to say, is that a lot of content creators and survivor mains simply normalised 'rule book', and if any killer dares to not follow those rules, its okay to insult them, wish them some awful things and ext. because it is the killer who is toxic, because they didnt followed 'rule book' and were pushing 'unhealthy gameplay'.
Most players will never be able to bully a kilker, but most killers can camp, tunnel and slug survivors by default.
For a survivor to bully, you need certain perks and flashlights or toolbox.
To camp , slug, tunnel you don't need any perk
I love the game and would keep playing if my computer could run E
UE5. Maybe it's the autism or the region, but I adored it and didn’t mind the toxicity. Would love to keep playing when I upgrade my PC (in like 5 years XD)