Friday the 13th Licensing Drama and What it Means for Jason Voorhees in DBD – Dead by Daylight

by



Read more Dead by Daylight ➜ https://deadbydaylight.mgn.gg

This video overviews the Friday the 13th licensing drama and how that could effect Jason Voorhees in Dead by Daylight.

► My Twitch……………… https://www.twitch.tv/schmucklesss
Schmuckles’ Discord: https://discord.gg/9Ww8gAc

——————————————————————————
► My Twitter………………………. https://www.twitter.com/schmucklesss
► My Discord……………………… https://discord.gg/9Ww8gAc
► Schmuckles’ Merch Store… https://streamlabs.com/schmucklesss/merch
► Business Inquiries…………… [email protected]
(Sponsors please put your price offer in the first email)
——————————————————————————

source

33 thoughts on “Friday the 13th Licensing Drama and What it Means for Jason Voorhees in DBD – Dead by Daylight”

  4. The F13th franchise is in such shit, It’s unbelievable. It’ll be a miracle if anything even remotely connected to F13th makes a appearance..

    Such sad times for the franchise. We could of been getting more films and games.. all because the writers wanted legal rights and money.

    So they had all this time to sort it out but when F13th started to get popularity with the game, especially at the time we get more merchandise as well, they all of a sudden wanted to “sort it out?” It’s a load of ballocks, and it all comes down to money.

    I don’t care what anybody says, if those writers sorted this mess out years ago or even shut their mouths, we could of got the game running still with all its content. So yeah, fuck em.

    Reply

  5. I kind of get the cease and desist, but I mean COME ON! I don't even play Friday the 13th and I'm pissed at this result. I don't really know the Friday the 13th series that well, but like, if nobody is gonna do anything, let the fans do the work! Let licensing be ok! Ffs, they ain't hating the brand!

    Reply

  6. The series Crystal Lake is currently set for June of 2025. The people behind it aren’t going to want ANYTHING rocking the boat before that premiere, as that’s what they’re banking on to revive the brand.

    Reply

  8. We also have to keep in mind that anybody can write anyone a cease and desist letter on anything. They don’t hold any legal ground it’s basically just saying hey we don’t like what youre doing so stop. If horror inc doesn’t hold the rights to Jason or Friday the 13th then that cease and desist means nothing.

    Reply

  10. I would of emailed them back saying 'go fuck yourself, it's only a mod, I'm not making any money and it's gonna do jack shit against your IP's image'. I know I'd immediately be sued but I'm honestly sick and tired of companies taking down fan projects.

    Reply

  14. These stories always blow my mind that the approach is “we need to shut this down” as opposed to “let’s get them to work for us so they could make money for us on things they’re passionate about”

    Reply

  15. Don't blame Josh, he's doing what he was paid for. I mean, he's doing it wrong as there's no case against infringement unless proof that the IP is being damaged by the content, and or being sold– neither of which have tangible evidence… but he is doing it.

    For tangible evidence to exist, Josh and Horror Inc. in extension would have to prove the following:

    1. "The intellectual property or the holder there-of is having reputation be damaged directly."
    In this case, there is no tangible evidence. They cannot prove without the defense being able to viably call it hear-say, as there's been no direct defamation of the IP or the holders in this context. As for the public's opinion on the matter after the Cease & Desist was sent out and revealed to the public is irrelevant, as it occurred at the IP holder's own actions.

    2. "This version of the game is being made for profit, or undermining profits of the original game in some way."
    In this case, they do have tangible evidence for the undermining of profits for the real game by GUN. As soon as he stated that the game would be free to download and not require purchase of the base game with a 'release date' before the game's effective termination of online service, it would be deemed as direct piracy and promotion of it, even if it is in a modified form.
    If it was done as a mod without the option of gaining the full game and all its purchasable content, then there would be no issue, but there is an issue that it is essentially a stand-alone mode that grants all past paid content.

    While they have a case against it for the idea of it being pirate activity, undermining the currently active Friday the 13th: The Game's profits, the defamation charges would be tossed out immediately.

    To go about it better, whether it's for this game or a future game as a modder who just wants to keep a game you love alive and are willing to put in the work, you need to follow a very specific set of rules for the content added:

    1. The content in the game must no longer be directly accessible by normal means. Example: The World of Warcraft private servers of Ascension. They always stay at least two expansions behind intentionally, as that content is no longer 'playable' or being 'sold' in its current form, avoiding the undermining of sales completely.

    2. The content in the mod must differ from the original source material if it is to be made "stand-alone". That means, while some of the content may be exactly the same, a majority must be modified. This includes gameplay, systems, and even UI. Example: Again, I'll use WoW: Ascension as the example. In Ascension, you can still play as an orc, and a dark elf, or a dwarf, etc; however when it comes to classes, everyone is a "Hero" and decides their abilities after the fact, which is both unique in gameplay and in system mechanics. In addition, those abilities may visually have been changed, and even mechanically act differently to the original counterparts.

    3. To be monetized, it must be completely unique, even if it would emulate the setting in the original game. This means that if you made a unique killer over top of Jason as a variant, and not in anyway called it "Jason Vorhees" or mentioned anything from existing media, you can claim it as your own content and even monetize it. Example: In Ascension, you can purchase skins and modes that never existed in the original content. This content is not based on any content from the 'real' game, and is entirely fan made from the ground up.
    That said, if you were to do this for F13, the killer in question would have to actually be unique, and not just a reskin that could be given a side by side having the same animations, sounds, and interactions in the game.

    4. You can bypass all of the above by going directly to the rights holders and coming to an agreement on a temporary or permanent use of licensing rights for the content in question. In this situation, you are fully at the IP holder's mercy, and if they say no, the answer is no and it ends there. Only one example of this has ever happened in gaming, and it was with City of Heroes: Homecoming. They approached the license holders and negotiated terms that would be agreeable to the holder, without fully purchasing the IP outright. It grants them access to continue to develop content for the game, and depending on the agreement details, may also allow for future paid content to be created. In a situation like this, all of the burden of maintaining the game falls upon you, and reputation must be upheld or the agreement could be void.
    IE: If the original game didn't include nudity or gratuitous violence, but your mod does, and the IP holders deem that to be damaging the reputation, they can not only break the agreement but also sue you for potential damage to the IP's reputation.
    The benefits of going about it this way vastly outweigh the possible negatives, as you could ultimately, legitimately, bring the game back to life and become the main developers, supported by the IP holder as a producer– marketing and other costs may end up falling to the IP holder if they choose to expend it as an investment for the future of the IP in its new form. Essentially, you could become an official developer of a game that has no developer anymore.

    TLDR;
    The guy fucked up by talking about it on social media and being open about it becoming playable before the game's servers fully went down.
    He also fucked up by not fully modifying its identity from being "F13, but good" to "Good like F13".

    Reply

  17. As unfortunate as Jason probably not coming to DBD anytime soon is, I still have no idea what his kit would be to make him different enough from Trapper to stand out. Not that I don't want him in tho. He's just not very high on my priority list of what I want, especially with all the drama around him. I'd have to say he's got a solid spot in my top 5 tho.
    1. Slenderman, 2. FNAF 3. Pennywise, 4. M3gan, 5. Friday the 13th

    Reply

  18. Actually I think they were able to remove it since the game engine and the content within the game was solely owned by Horror Inc prior to the suits ruling…meaning that they retained ownership over that particular thing…likely anything after the court ruling would be a joint venture (like the upcoming tv series)

    Reply

  22. This isnt the first game that died and got revived by fans only to be shut down for legal problems. Battlefield 2 had some fanmade servers that EA finally caught on to and shut them down. Not sure if the warhammer online fan revival called return of reckoning might still be running

    Reply

  23. Yo. Toontown had the same thing done to them and they make no money. Still going after 10 years or so with no profits made. It falls under fair use. That legal team needs to be fired.

    Reply

  28. Only just now learned about the resurrected mod, and am now super sad that it got shut down. Idk how it was hurting the brand, it literally would've done the opposite. There's no good reason for them to shut it down. I hope the creators could/would somehow reskin and basically whitewash the game of any licensed content, and let it be a sort of spiritual successor, rather than just deleting it altogether. Rename it to Summer Camp Resurrected (in homage to F13's original title, before it became a F13 game), make the killer a generic burly mask guy named Jeff the killer, make the counselors look slightly different and have a different name and boom, there you go. Basically keep the gameplay the same, but avoiding legal issues

    Edit: looks like every mod for F13 is getting shut down. Bro I f__ing hate these people. I wish I would've been aware of all these before the crap hit the fan. I miss F13 and just want to be able to play it (or a game like it) while I wait for killer klowns, without a ton of hackers messing up the game constantly and there being no content or updates

    Reply

  30. In total fairness, you can't really let people do what they want with your licenses. Resurrected may not have been harmful to the brand currently but it could easily become harmful and the license holders need oversight to prevent this from happening. It is a shame that they weren't willing to work with the community to keep things kosher but if they've got other preexisting plans then it makes sense.

    Reply

  32. An amazing series is being forgotten because dudes won't sit down and discuss things. They wanna instead sit there with the licenses and let an amazing slasher icon be forgotten and act like children.

    Reply

  33. I hate IP owners that use the copyright laws to shut down fan creations with no intention to get any profits other than the enjoyment of people for X franchise. They can fuck off, they're cancerous to their own IP.

    Reply

Leave a Comment