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Pixel’s video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wfS_a-g9ao
http://www.twitch.tv/ScottJund
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he's being to evolve now he's at 30 minute videos to 1hr videos someone put that impostor otz down he's spreading the hour video 😱
Me when buddy 🙂
trying to learn from twitch chat is akin to giving yourself brainrot
24:10 It's not about whether somebody likes or dislikes the skin or if they can afford it. FOMO is an intentionally designed psychological attack to capitalize on people's subconscious inclinations toward apprehension and regret. That's why people call it a predatory tactic, and it counts whether it is being used for your money or time. The problem lies when it is a matter of the scale: how suitably any given product should be priced. While an hour of gameplay can be reasonable, there is no legitimate reason for a skin in any video game to be $10-$15 or take a hundred hours or more within a limited time window. That's higher than many games are priced on sale, and for the average person, that's basically demanding the vast majority of their free time in that window.
Most people feel varying degrees of it at any age, even for minor things, like cosmetics in a stupid game. It is generally more prevalent in youth and becomes a learned practice to curb it. But that practice can also wane for elderly people, who have to weigh whether or not they want to experience or participate in any given media or community against their own mortality.
Edit: FOMO was first coined about the term in 2004.,
I love that pixel is universally adored by the DBD community. He’s one of the best DBD YouTubers 😊
Preface: I enjoy watching your content cause I do generally agree with you on most things. And you are a very funny dude. However:
You really seam to struggle with the FOMO concept on cosmetics, and your lack of understanding seems to cause you to (assuming unintentionally) twist the argument into something completely contrary to what people are trying to tell you. The example of the rent in a week, but cosmetic expires in 3 days, is to illustrate that not everyone CAN buy certain cosmetics in the available time window. Not that they are spending their rent on these cosmetics. A lot of people who don't have much (if any) expendable income don't get the opportunity to acquire the cosmetics they want, because of the limited timeframe they are available. This can be disappointing to people who enjoy acquiring cosmetics in games.
People don't want limited time cosmetics, not because "they don't want the cosmetic", but because they are LIMITED TIMED. The limited time is the important part of that sentence, not the cosmetic. Most people don't pay for cosmetics they don't want, and that is in no way part of the issue. They aren't feeling pressured to buy the cosmetic "because its a cosmetic therefor they have to buy it" (although that could be a disorder in and of itself), they are feeling pressured to buy it because they DO want that cosmetic and will miss the chance to buy it otherwise.
This is predatory because it heavily incentivizing making poor decisions for people who have low impulse control, addictions, autism, or other mental disabilities. Its not always as bad as missing rent, but what about something more innocuous? Maybe someone skips a meal or three? Maybe someone thinks they can get a little more distance out of their gas tank? Maybe they think "I'll be fine, I get payed again on Thursday" even though they are already living paycheck to paycheck. Enough of these forgone "small conveniences" across enough games utilizing the same predatory practices, could over time start to add up. Maybe someone's diet is already on the borderline of malnourishment. Maybe their car is already running on empty. Maybe they get laid off the next day. 5, 10, 20 dollars here or there, maybe even more, over many instances of this can, and has, left people in difficult financial situations or worse. A controversial enough problem for the average twitch chat, and enough even for governments to have had serious discussions about the validity of these monetization tactics (by which I mean the tactic in general, not specifically its use in DBD). You may not understand it, but the way you often times twist the argument can be pretty frustrating.
This is all without touching the topic of non-monetary FOMO, which you briefly mentioned. In short the phrase "time is money" has a lot more to do with the issues than you might expect. A lot of the working class world doesn't necessarily have the time to dedicate playing the amount of hours some games demand to achieve many limited time unlockables, and this comes with a whole host of its own potential problems.
the thing I never hear about limited time cosmetics is people who find out about a skin but are new and can’t get it, thats happened to me and friends in a lot of games and it’s really annoying
Hold up. Your literally contradict your argument about skins within 3 minutes of talking about it.
"If you care about a skin that much, why not just buy it when it's available so you don't miss it if you want it that bad" is what you're saying. Yet people aren't always able to just buy the shit they want when it's available, hence FOMO being a piece of shit system to pray on people spending money spontaneously. But then you even say "If you're buying DBD skins when you can't afford rent you're a fucking idiot". Yes, you mean like WHEN YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT AT THAT TIME? Like come on man. Use your head on this one. It's literally "Damn, that's a cool thing in this game I play regularly. I want it but i'll have to wait. Oop, I waited and it's now gone. I should of literally got it when it was available" Then the next thing comes and they feel they immediately have to get it or else they'll be fucked.
The first time I ever heard the acronym FOMO was like a decade ago in a TV commercial literally saying to buy whatever they were selling so you don't suffer from it.
You realize companies have psych consults on staff to determine the most effective way to mentally manipulate people into buying products, yes? That's literally ALL content under capitalism.
Why do you think you remember commercials from 25 years ago? Coincidence? Or because there is an entire field of science dedicated to understanding EXACTLY how brains work?
As a person who still doesn't have all perks unlocked the bloodpoint grind reduction has been fantastic. I had most of the killers at P3 prior to the changes, but the changes have helped me unlock many survivor perks and try builds I otherwise wouldn't have, as I am a killer main.
What chaps my ass is “earning” cool cosmetics only for them to be for sale a year ago. But I can’t get the cool ones from before 2-4 plus years ago. 🥴😭
I… have spent way to much money on cosmetics. Fuck limited time/over priced garbage.
I still struggle to keep up with my add ons for killers like the chilli add on for bubba. He needs that add on 😂
I can barely maintain if I want to level up other characters then it becomes even harder.
You can just P3 them translated to you can just pee through them, lmao.
Yes, it's hoarders/collectors and people with poor impulse control that are targeted with limited time purchase windows.
I wish skull merchant's drone were just meant for information or just anything other than having a boring gen defense or forcing players to hold W.
They need to do a ultra rare skin for twins that completely change what she looks like and the twin. She just looks so boring and ugly.
The next killer should be just some guy, from down the road.
pixels accent sounds more northern
ngl this is like the best 1hr ad for your twitch streams like i wish i was here live for this LMFAO
15:40 unless you have a medical condition, struggling with self control is entirely your own fault and allowing it to rule you is not on BHVR
literally watched 30mins of this and am really disappointed. making fun of someone or saying "I can't understand" every minute during their video is not something I wanna watch til the end. concentrate or leave it be. why make a video out of this. live/vod would be enough
12:10 On the topic of Limit Time Cosmetic. I usually don't care for this stuff either in most games but I do find it rather inconvenient in DBD specifically if you're like me. I ONLY buy skins with shards. (with the exception for outfits of licensed characters.) Sometimes I'm even inpatient and buy each part of an outfit as soon as I have enough shards but I never dip into spending auric cells. This is just not an option with limited time cosmetics. With this system I need to make sure to grind enough shards months in advance just to buy 1 outfit. That's especially a problem if you saved up for something in Halloween because you won't have enough for something in Christmas aswell since they're so close together.
Another side issue is alot of these cosmetics aren't even really seasonal themed but they're being treated as such. A huge example is the survivors cozy pajamas. Want a cool hoodie for Mikaela or cool headphones for Jonah? Well tough luck because they're considered Christmas skins! Come back next year! It's just annoying and inconvenient. Also because I find it funny I wanna point out twins already doesn't have many cosmetics, but one of them is also considered a time limited skin. They somehow managed to screw over twins with this lol.
By the end of the day it's just pixels on a screen but people do like to collect skins, having their hands forced is never a good thing and should rightfully be called out by the community.
"If you want to achieve excellence, you can get there today. As of this second, quit doing less—than—excellent work." —Thomas J. Watson
So apparently I switched from watching scary stories videos to fall asleep, to watching Scott react to dbd videos to sleep. Not a tad bit mad about it
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Fomo is becoming more a common discussion because battle passes are becoming more widespread in video games.
I loved the debate on the FOMO thing. It first started by calling people that suffer that "fucking idiots" but you quickly retracted and entered the "ok, let's learn" mindset and that's pretty admirable ngl
The chat was also civilized and the overall discussion was great to hear.
The "Asking about stuff you don't understand is how you expand your brain lol" argument is great too. It's always nice to see open minded people in the internet
I'm british and I struggle to understand some parts of this, I think he just falls victim to mumbling occasionally
23:24 when Scott stopped talking about fomo after an eternity
I find it great that people find it difficult to understand pixel, I genuinely understand every word he says xD.
I need more clown girls
Sad this video has more views than the original. Pixel Bush deserves more love.
for me this is the third video i've watched on ur channel, i've watched and enjoyed your reaction videos to Otzdarva's videos about tunneling or balance pyramid, where u raised a lot of good arguments to what Otzdarva was saying, this one in comparison is a total disappointment. if u cut the 20 minutes discussion with chat about FOMO and limited cosmetics and all the laughs and rewinds at the subtitles generated for Pixel's British accent this is just a rewatch of Pixel's video without anything to say
idk if its just me, but lets forget about the meta for just a second. can we talk about how BAD hit boxes are for killers and survivors? how terrible collisions are. like people say billy is fun i personally hate going against billy, because im not being ran at from a long distance with the chainsaw, i have billys that get in my face and rev the chainsaw, and theres not much you can do about it because both the chainsaw and survivor hit box is so fucking big that he is literally cutting 2 feet away from you and it hits you. (not saying the issue is only on billy but hes just a good example as to why some of the hit boxes are absolutely terrible. an example of a good hitbox would be wesker. wesker could also could be 2 feet away and you still have the opportunity to move out of the wa, because his hit collision and hit box for his bound is not so enormous that he grabs you 2 feet away. it feels like you have to literally be in his face on top of you unlike billy. hit boxes are definitely weird when it comes to vaulting windows. desync needs to be fixed as well. they need to update the general gameplay before worrying about a meta and a killers power
Scott Jund publicly shaming the British 😮 (also love the video man, keep up the good work.)
After I heard from the doctor that I have several mental illnesses I went straight to play dbd
He actually pronounced the Brazilian siblings names correctly, truly a man of culture
I've finished the vid, but I wanted to add more examples of extremely predatory FOMO practices. ^-^
I've been playing a mobile gacha game for the past 7 years. When it came to the NA Server, which is when I started playing it, we had a special Hell Event(limited-time event offering a few 5* unique Skins that requires you to spend Diamonds[Diamond: most unique in-game currency] to acquire the Skin). Typically, if you want the entire cosmetic, you'll spend a based 4,800 Diamonds to unlock the Gift Box holding it.
You can replenish your Diamonds with real money through in-game transactions. Every Pull/Wish is 30 Diamonds and you get 65 free Diamonds daily from mini quests. Every Pull/Wish MIGHT give you back: 6 Stamina, 12 Stamina, 10,000 Gold, 15,000 Gold, 12 Diamonds, 25 Diamonds, or limited 4* cosmetic piece from the same Hell Event. It's all RNG-based and your only guarantee is a Gift Box with the full Skin in it once you've spent 4,800 Diamonds.
BUT, the 1st Box isn't guaranteed to be the 5* Skin you want. They are offering 5 unique Skins. There is a price required to unlock each Gift Box. Numbers 1-3 are random. #4 and #5 will always be the same. #5 being the rarest Skin(these Hell Events typically offer 2D Skins with an occasional piece being Animated, but the 5th Skin is special because it is 3D and comes with voice lines and full-body movement) and therefore requires the most money spent. To get this special, 3D Skin that actually walks around your screen and in & out of frame while talking/singing to you, you'll need to Pull/Wish 890 times, which equals 26,700 Diamonds spent. Buying 6,300 Diamonds costs $100 for the first time. The price rises the more you top up. I've never spent money on this game so IDK how far it goes, but I do know a Whale that spent $20,000 on the rarest Hell Event we ever got.
Basically, FOMO came into play in the first month of this game's NA Server release. ppl were mass-buying these Skins cuz they wanted the special 3D Skin at the end. We were told by the Chinese Server that Hell Events always come back, just save up. And it's been 7 years, and that Event has never returned. To this day, Day 1 Players are crying about it.
On another example: We got 2 Disney Collabs and 2 Barbie collabs. We were informed the first time for each, that they were never coming back so Don't Miss Out. FOMO. And I didn't believe it cuz why would those brands NOT want to make more money off of idiots willing to pay real money for 2D pixels? A year later, the second Disney Collab dropped on us. And not too long after, the second Barbie Collab dropped as well. I managed to Pull the pieces I wanted from each set without bothering with the whole sets. I legit have Cinderella's ballgown in motion, I'm all G there.
Basically, we have a guarantee that some Hell Events come back, because they are tied to the Lore of the game and as the story progresses, the Hell Event's Battle Sequence has to progress too. But the Chinese Server was wrong about many returning events, and after 7 years, many have not come back. So because of this, NA Server users are even more scared of missing out on these limited-time events when they pop up because if it isn't Lore-relevant, we have no guarantee it's coming back.
Also, the price of the first Hell Event we ever had, versus the prices of the Hell Events we get now, which are formatted the same way and legit nothing has changed, is drastically different. The most recent Hell Event would take almost $40,000 to get all 5 unique Skins, with the 5th being the most expensive gap from #4 to #5 being at almost double the price required to reach the 4th Skin alone. A very small number of ppl actually spent enough to get all 5 Skins. It was literal Hell.
So in this instance, FOMO is indeed predatory. And the problem is all these Skins are full of cosmetics that each have a point worth. So using them in Battles gains you higher points and lets you win more easily. So it is very much Pay To Win most of the time even if you could grind out a Free To Play win if you save up your Diamonds and use them to Craft the right pieces/Skins ahead of time.
So it IS a mix of collecting, hoarding, having fun, and FOMO.
Were going to live forever wasn't buffed in compensation of losing it's blood points booster. It was just re-worked because it had no use other then boosting your BP so when that was removed the perk would do nothing if they didn't change it. How does someone not see this?